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How Did Jesus Really Die?????
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Posted By:
X
in McKinney, TX
Jun 08, 2005
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Some people believe that Jesus Didn't die on the cross....Some speculate that He was so dehidrated that the blood flow slowed down so he didn't bleed to death and was awoken by Mary after he was placed in Tomb simply by giving him water....
A new scientific study shows something else. A blood clot???? Here is the link:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8139434/
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Idris
in London
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 | 08:23 AM
i believe that everything the bible says about jesus is true, jesus did die on the cross, it was extremely painful and ultimately for us. amongst many reasons one of them for him willingly going on the cross is to show that God would sacrifice his only son so that we may all have life in all its fullness. free from the shackles of pride, hate and many other bad qualities that hold the human race slaves. sorry if it is too straight forward but that is how it is. and yes to the person who thinks christians are supposed to be perfect, christians are human first and that means many faulty electrical sparks. the reason i believe in jesus is that i recognise i am brimming over with all sorts of evil and i believe that his death and ressurection shows he has the power to redirect my heart from anger, violence, hate to everything opposite to those. and the christians you know are in the same process that i'm in, we'll never be perfect as long as we're on an imperfect world. hope what i said is informative and is understood to the core by every reader |
X
in McKinney, TX
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 | 11:08 AM
You can't argue with an educated christian, they will bring you down to their level and beat you with expieriance. Just be thankful there aren't that many. The human mind, by nature, tries to figure out it's surroundings, including exsistance. "Religion" was the best means to do that back in the day. The mind was able to rest with a simple explanation and people believed the damndest things, because all they had was faith and lack of education. Theydidn't know how or why storms happened,, or natural disasters, or what germs were, or mental disorders. |
joe
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 | 07:10 PM
Have any of you actually read the Bible?
Have you ever wondered why you have had to make a conscious decision to reject God?
Start with Romans 2. Then try 2 Corinthians 4:1-6 and finally go back to Romans and read chapter 1 vs. 19-32 It should all start making more sense, but don't stop there -keep reading!
For those of you who judge Christianity based on what your observation of your fellow mankind is doing, please consider my illustration:
Would you consider a company's Employee handbook flawed based on the behavior of a few bad Employees? Or would you carefully read and study the handbook to make that determination? If the handbook is properly written and some employees do not follow the handbook, what then? What happens if you find out that many of the people who are employed there haven't even read the handbook or only parts of it? What if you find out that there are even people who claim to work at said company, but in reality aren't even on the payroll?
Ok, I think you get the point, I'll stop. BUT...
Why spend any of your time and energy on conjecture, opinion, and hearsay when the cold hard data is readily available to you? If you really want to know what Christianity is about, read the Bible. |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 | 08:28 PM
Joe is right. Just because some of his fellow Christians start wars for personal wealth, rape alter boys and kill believers of other faiths in the name of God's love, we should not hold it against all Christians.
Instead, we should embrace God for his tsunami that killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people (at Christmas), for every earthquake that kills hundreds more and leaves them homeless, every tornado that rips through a trailer park, every drought that leaves millions starving, every child born blind or with missing limbs or with another child attached at the skull.
What's wrong with us athiests for not wanting to pick up a Bible and read about Jesus?
Yeah Joe, we see the point all right. It's on the top of your head.
God Is For Suckers! |
Joe
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 | 05:22 PM
Captain Al
You jumped to insults and name calling pretty quickly there don't you think? I'd be happy to continue this debate with you, if you are truly interested.
Let me know. |
vince
in cali
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 | 05:42 PM
hey al that is soo true! their assuming that jesus did exist in that article, which he didn't.
God repeats his intention to kill "every living substance ... from off the face of the earth." But why does God kill all the innocent animals? What had they done to deserve his wrath? It seems God never gets his fill of tormenting animals. 7:4
sigh...just cuz a few things are evil he decides to drown them all.
God tells Abram to kill some animals for him. The needless slaughter makes God feel better. 15:9-10
yea lets all worship a dood who wants us 2 kill innocent animals
Abraham shows his willingness to kill his son for God. Only any evil God would ask a father to do that; only a bad father would be willing to do it. 22:10
if i was a father and god told me 2 kill my son i wouldn't do it. does that make me a bad person?
"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Thousands of innocent women have suffered excruciating deaths because of this verse. 22:18
good job god ur bringing happiness to the world.
If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13
umm how come there are some gay christians? (no pun intended)
God will kill those who hate him. 7:10
i hate u god...hey nothing happened!!
If you mock your father or disobey your mother, the ravens will pick out your eyeballs and the eagles will eat them. 30:17
how come im not blind yet? i disobey my mom sometimes : ( like stayin up 2 late, should i get my eyes picked out? well u should accordin 2 dis god.
the web site dat i got all dis from and there is alot more, is http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html
sigh...i can't believe people actually believe in this stuff with no proof what so ever. they say they have faith. well look up faith in the dictionary, so all those people are saying that they have an irrational belief in something? wow i actually agree with em |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 | 09:46 PM
What did you expect Joe. This is a forum about discussing and dubunking hoaxes. You show up here spewing a bunch of drivel about believing in something that is well known to be a hoax. I would have given the same response if you expressed a belief in jackalopes.
No I don't want to debate you about your god and bible. That is off topic and has been done on this site many times. This thread is about whether or not a blood clot in a person nailed to a board will kill him before bleeding will.
Besides, if you really wanted to debate, you would have offered rational explanations for the points brought up by Vince and myself. Go to the "Prove God exists and win $1,000,000" thread. There you can show that you know more than astronomers, geologists, biologists, geneticists, and physicists just by reading one book. Be prepared for insults and name calling though. |
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 | 02:06 AM
Who cares how Jesus died.He was crucified.It's a well known historical fact.What is important,who he was.A simple mortal or a son of God.
"The manic-depressive narrator of this edgy novel offers an inside look at mental illness. The one problem is that the reader has to spend so much time inside the mind of a manic depressive to get it. "I am waiting to know what I am because I don't know," begins the narrator, but as the novel progresses (and time recedes), the narrator recalls the time when he concluded he was God, sometimes the Father, sometimes the Son".
"The story begins with the record of an ongoing episode, in the summer of 1991, as Zwiren walks through Manhattan, deftly exposing the reader to the narrator's mercurial obsessions |
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 | 03:29 AM
Ignorance is Bliss.
Oh! How much I wish I were stupid. |
Accipiter
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 | 09:30 AM
Does it matter how Jesus died? (Well, maybe it mattered to Him, assuming that He did really exist and get crucified.) But does the exact reason for His death have any impact on Christianity? For some strange reason I don't have every single line of the Bible memorized, so I don't know if there might be some little prophecy stuck somewhere in the middle of the Book of Isaiah or someplace stating, ". . .and the Messiah shall die of being stabbed in the side". |
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 | 10:51 AM
I agree with Acci. |
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 | 03:52 AM
Re-post:
Assuming,that he really was the son of god,how could he die,being immortal?Tens of thousands of people were crucified by Roman Empire at that time.What makes his suffering so different from suffering of other mortals?And how did god sucrificied his son after getting him back in heaven in a matter of few decades?Crapp! |
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 | 07:27 AM
Just b/c you're the son of God doesn't make you immortal. You're confusing Greek & Roman gods with the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. |
Homosexuals are gay
in no
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 | 08:35 AM
hey CAPTON you seem a tid bit bitter towords christions,god, and joe for standing up for what he belives, god for nateral disasters, christions for what the cathlics did hundreds of years ago oh and the raping children also cathlic priests. Well Im hear to help I thingk this hole sitiuation stems to you chield hood and I was gust wondering if you had any thing you wanted to get off you chest were you melested as a child any way on topic I beileave do to reserch on what would happen to a man put threw what jesus went threw that his hart would have imploded I can go into detal opon request |
Homosexuals are gay
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 | 08:38 AM
I am aware that I cant spell and do not need to be reminded |
Charybdis
in Hell
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 | 08:40 AM
Wow. Not a native English speaker, I presume. |
Homosexuals are gay
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 | 08:48 AM
sadly I am but as a child I was never tought how to read I had to figure that out on my own that is the mane reason my spelling is so atrochious |
X
in McKinney, TX
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 | 09:26 AM
I see notheng rong with hes speleen.
Anyway I was responding to that Joe guy when he asked if any of us have read the bible...The answer is YES...actually I study religion. What I have noticed is skeptics generally know more about the bible then christians. It's a very sad thing. And you wandered into a site filled with them!!!! |
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 | 01:49 AM
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA said:
"Just b/c you're the son of God doesn't make you immortal. You're confusing Greek & Roman gods with the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob".
Are you trying to say,that Jesus never went to Heaven to join his Father,according to New Testament?
What the Old Testament characters have to do with Jesus in general? Nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Am I in a kindergarten!!!!?????? |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 | 01:54 AM
I was once on a very famous radio show which I'm not at liberty to name and I said that Jesus's death was essentially "suicide by cop."
Jesus knew that claiming to be the Messiah would upset the Romans and did it anyway. That was the 33 BC equivalent of people who hold someone hostage and defy the cops who show up to shoot them.
Hey, it's an original theory! |
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