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Staying young / living FOREVER!!!
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Mark-N-Isa
in Midwest USA
May 13, 2005

It's now starting to happen accidentally... so we know it's possible. How long before science is able to do this on purpose? Immortality can't be far away... but do we really want to live forever? Never ending Shakespeare and Mozart types might be nice, but with it also comes never ending Castro and Bin Laden types!!!

http://www.theindychannel.com/health/4485525/detail.html
Category: Health; Replies: 21

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Marli
in a constant meditative trance
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Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 | 12:08 PM
The article also says that she's come close to death thrice and has a variety of serious medical conditions. If I had to live like that, I'd just want to grow old and die.
Mark-N-Isa
in Midwest USA
Member
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 | 12:22 PM
True Marli...

But currently it's a disease / problem that's got a major down side to it...

But if science learns how to, and eventually does it on purpose then it would be after the kinks have been worked out.

And then wouldn't be something that you wouldn't desire but rather would desire... maybe.

There was another topic I posted that was related to this in a way... it's here.

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/forum/forum_comments/2899/

Not sure if I'd want to live forever, even healthy... but it might be nice to extend by a few hundred years or so!
Marli
in a constant meditative trance
Member
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 | 04:09 PM
Besides, what mom wants to raise a two-year-old for that long? From what I've heard about my twos, I wouldn't want to raise me that way for one year.
Mark-N-Isa
in Midwest USA
Member
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 | 04:31 PM
Well I doubt anyone, like you say, would "stop" the aging process at that stage. Probably more like 25 or something... that's probably about where'd I'd choose if I could.
stork
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 | 05:57 PM
I can't bring the site up, now, but *any* story related to extra-longevity has got to be a hoax, or at least a temporary misunderstanding. Folks, we all have to face our own mortality. If it weren't so, due to our proclivity to reproduce, the world would be seriously overcrowded, and very soon. We don't have enough resources for all the living humans on Earth now, as it is. World population is expected to double within the next 50-60 years, even given the current rate of death. Would you want, or want your offspring, to live in a world in whch the average human lived over 100 years?
stork
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 | 06:09 PM
Sorry, I just checked a couple sources, and found my stats were wrong by 2X. World population is expected to double in 100-120 years, given currant birth rates, and allowing for significant fluctuation. Gee, wonder how the HMO's will deal with that? Not to mention Social security and Medicare, here in the U.S. Hold on to your hats, fellow baby-boomers - it's going to be a wild ride. And for you GEN X and Y and whatever they're calling young adults, now, don't count on *anything* but yourselves. Sorry!
Accipiter
in the Northern Hemisphere, unless They have lied.
Member
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 | 07:18 PM
The problem is not that the Earth's population is so large that we can't produce enough food. There's lots of surplus food thrown away every day, and plenty of unused farmland. And we haven't really even begun tapping into the oceans' resources. The problem is in the distribution of the food. Too many people don't have access to enough of it because they're too poor, or live in some place too isolated, or they crowd too many people into one little region so local food production isn't enough to cope. If we could get those problems sorted out, then we could have plenty more people on Earth (plus also probably reduce disease, poverty, etc.).
Even so, living forever would doubtless get rather boring eventually. Either that, or you'd get so overloaded with memories that your brain would shut down.
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA
Member
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 | 08:05 AM
...That's why Alaska and Hawaii doesn't get fresh chicken at Taco Bell.

I asked my husband about the memory thing...cuz he was a big The Highlander fan...I asked, "How does Duncan keep all that stuff in his head? Wouldn't he start forgetting other things, if new things started coming in?" His reply? "That's only a question a faggity douche bag would ask. Don't ask me that stuff."
stork
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 | 03:11 PM
Accipiter - You got it right about the distribution problem, and yes, it's an unevenly distributed problem itsself, worldwide. That is the reason why excess population becomes a problem. We keep growing in overall net number by thousands per day, but our capacity to evenly distribute available food, potable water, and medicine, among other resources, is not expanding in ratio. Don't know about you, but I'll be glad not to see 2050.
Mark-N-Isa
in Midwest USA
Member
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 | 03:52 PM
Don't know about you, but I'll be glad not to see 2050.

Why so?
Name
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 | 02:47 AM
What is the point of continuing to live your life if you are just going to die and lose all of your memories? The logical choice would seem to be to pursue immortality. Don't worry about the population WAR will take care of that.
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA
Member
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 | 03:37 AM
SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!
Name
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 | 02:16 PM
Weak people have trouble with the idea of living forever and the idea of not living long enough, maybe mommy and daddy made them feel to important. What is the definition of suicide anyway?
Citizen Premier
in spite of public outcry
Member
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 | 04:45 PM
We're talking about immortality and they can't even make an article that lasts two months?
Cathy
in anywhere but here
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 | 08:14 PM
come on people, we all know the world is gonna end wwwwaaaayyyy before overcrowding becomes a problem (don't you remember st. malacky - after this pope, it's all over)
Mark-N-Isa
in Midwest USA
Member
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 | 10:39 PM
I still can't get over the statement...

"Don't know about you, but I'll be glad not to see 2050."

How bad must one's life SUCK that you would rationally decide... Gee, I sure hope I'm dead in the next 45 years!!! I mean, I'm pushing 40 now and regardless of the situation... I have NO desire to hasten the end of it all!

Oh, that's right. Just because 5.5 billion people in the world hope and believe there's an afterlife then there MUST be one. So, without any definitive proof of an afterlife, let's hurry and hasten the end of this life, for which we have PROOF! Makes NO damn sense...
Citizen Premier
in spite of public outcry
Member
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 | 12:28 AM
1 vote for never ending Castro.
Rochelle
Member
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 | 11:51 AM
Back to the original subject...

I googled this since the article's down, and discovered that it seemed to have been pulled simultaneously from all the sites it was posted on soon after being published. There are discussions about this (and copies of the original article) at abovetopsecret.com and Snopes.
Mark-N-Isa
in Midwest USA
Member
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 | 01:21 AM
Yeah it was simultaneously yanked!!! Do you think "THEY" want the medical and pharmecutical industries being put out of business? A lot of "THEM" get their personal fortunes, with which to run the world, from these very industries!!!

smirk
matthew
in cardiff
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 | 07:15 PM
Radical life extension is likely to happen within the next 25-30 years. With all the breakthrough going on in Biotechnology and nanotechnology we could wipe out the major causes of death at old age. This would only increase life expectancy by 15 years or so but life extension is going to happen regardless of whether you want it to or not.

Im currently donating to the mprize which is based off the xprize. I am donating $25,000 of my money along with 300 other people ( 1 thousand a year) This is to bring life extension closer so that 100,000 people wont have to die everyday of age related causes.

Life is great and you incredibly lucky to even be born. The future is going to be great and its not going to stay the same. Your parents or grandparents may have lived similar lives but the 21st century is going to be radically different and fast paced. Technology is growing exponentially and we have so many things to look forward to.

There is so much to see on this universe. You have to think big and not just about whats here on earth. There is so much out there and you wont get to see it ever if you die. You must try to live to see real rejuvenation therapies.

Life extension used to be a dream but we do have plans to slow it down or reverse now. Check out DR aubrey de grey SENS plan

http://www.gen-cam.ac.uk/sens

Dont have so much of a negative outlook on life.
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