Has anyone seen the movie "What the Bleep Do We Know?"? It's a really fascinating movie if you're a person who likes to question the fabric of reality, like I am.
I'd love to hear anyone's thoughts on this.
It's "spiritual" and features Deepak Chopra. Nuff said.
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA Member
Posted: Wed May 04, 2005 | 10:16 AM
My husband just re-started our Netflix account...so b/c it's cheaper to rent now...I might go ahead & watch it. I can always drop it in the mailbox if I really hate it.
Papazombie
in Edmonton
Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 | 08:45 PM
Hey Glamcat.
If you like to question the fabric of reality, check out the paradox I posted in "Off Topic Chit Chat II". Deals with reality not being constand. Posted it today, it's near the end.
I watched the film last night and thought it was excellent. I recommend that you go see it if you haven't already.
As far as Deepak Chopra goes, I've heard of him, but I'm pretty sure that he isn't in it!
It's a shame when people say that because others thought it was "stupid" that they won't go and make their own minds up themselves. We are programmed enough as it is to conform to a certain pattern. We should be aiming to make up our own minds!
Sixy, I understand what you are trying to say, but to say
'We should be aiming to make up our own minds!' and then telling us to go and see the film is slightly funny.
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA Member
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 | 07:52 AM
Sixty. I respect the opinion of the people who told me it was stupid...SOoo, I'm going to guess they're trying to keep me from wasting my time.
David B.
in Reading, England.
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 | 08:25 AM
[sarcasm]
Well of course we're all ex-moonie, scientologists who pin our 'Heaven's Gate' badges proudly to our 'I survived Waco' t-shirts.
Why Boo swims Loch Ness twice a day, just to personally experience not seeing the monster.
It's just so much easier than using reason or judgement when forming an opinion.
[/sarcasm]
Being open-minded means you're willing to change your opinion on receipt of additional information from respected (by you) sources or personal experience. It doesn't mean that you mustn't have an opinion unless it's based on personal experience; that's solipsism.
I doubt that the movie is worth my money, and nobody whose opinion on the matter I'd trust has said it's worth seeing, so I won't be going to see it (it only opened recently in the UK).
I read a book with quotes and pictures. Some of the stuff seemed really good, if for nothing other than an exercise in mind-blowing. I'd like to see it.
But I found it disturbing that along with scientests and religious thinkers, it quoted a supposed spirit guide somebody was channelling. I believe that "spirit guides" are often made up but can be from the dark side of the spiritual realm. Not sure why he/it would be qualified to add its 2 cents to the movie.
Sixy
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 | 06:48 AM
Yep, I can see what you mean by me saying to see the film to make up your own minds is weird to say...but what I was meaning to get across is that I can't see how people could have their own judgement of something if they haven't experienced it themselves.
If you've seen the film and hated it, fine. Thats your own opinion and thats fine. But to say that you are not going to see it just because others have said not to means that you are taking somebody elses judgement of the film and not your own. Does that make sense?
Yes, there is someone in the film that believes they channel someone from Atlantis. Yes, I have my own issues with that. But I still think that its a refreshing look on life and one that is worth exploring - I'm talking on a personal level here.
There are lots of things in this world that we don't all understand and thats cool, we are different people. Maybe the science and the beliefs of this film are things that some of us can't understand.
No hard feelings is meant by anything I'm saying. you're entitled to your opinions as much as I'm entitled to mine
I feel like I've already explored all that metaphysics crap thoroughly--when I was twelve. I have no need to do it again.
buba
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 | 11:40 AM
sixy, one does not need to experience a brick to the head to know it hurts. one may say 'that looked like it hurt! i wont do that to my self'.
the problem with this film is not that: "Maybe the science and the beliefs of this film are things that some of us can't understand." it is that the makers of the film and the interviewees no not understand the science.
from review By John Olmsted, E-Skeptic #36 for October 1, 2004 :
"In April of this year I invited one of the film’s directors, William Arntz, along with one of his science consultants, Joe Dispenza, to Portland State University. To put the question of free will and responsibility to the test I put up a photo of a child with Downs Syndrome. I asked if this child was free to create any reality he wanted. Was this child responsible for his condition, I queried? Arnzt responded that in fact he is to blame for his disorder—he is paying for transgressions in a previous life. This is the same doctrine of reincarnation and karma that justified the caste system in India. The same logic blames the patient for their cancer."
David B.
in Reading, England.
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 | 02:55 PM
I can't see how people could have their own judgement of something if they haven't experienced it themselves.
Not very open-minded of you!
Seriously, let's hope you are never called for jury duty then. Not actually having been an eyewitness, you wouldn't be able to accept the eyewitness testimony of others. And not actually having collected and processed the trace evidence with your own hands, all that forensic science would be wasted.
Judging what other people are saying can be difficult; what are they claiming, how likely is it to be true, why might they claim that, why might they lie, etc. But it is a worthwhile skill to learn.
Almost all animals can learn from direct experience while very few are capable of learning from the experiences of others. Why not be special?
