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Loch Ness Monster Tooth
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Posted By:
BugbearSloth
in earth, 3rd planet, sol system
Apr 18, 2005
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The tooth fairy will love this.
http://www.lochnesstooth.com/
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Smerk
in to mischief
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 | 08:28 PM
Thank you, LaMa!! That has been bugging me soooo much, but I couldn't remember the spelling of the name myself, which is why I didn't put my 2 cents in. |
Geoff
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 | 05:54 PM
Hello
I've looked at the film footage - not much in itself. Still looking around for footage of the deer ribcage. Was some actually taken??
The tooth is a problem. It looks too good. If this is from a meat-eater of any sort, then one would expect some sort of decay on it. Check out all carnivores.
Two students invited out by girls who didn't turn up sounds like a set-up whether they were involved or not. The tooth going missing at the same time tends to tie in to that.
As much as I'd like to say there is something in the Loch, I think this is very dubious.
Geoff |
J.G.
in usa
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 | 09:39 AM
I definatly think the tooth is real. And as far as nessie being locked in from road construction I think it is not real.there is a system of caves recently discovered on the bottom of the loch ness. It is possiable that there are 1 or more of these creatures living in these caves under the lake. |
J.G.
in usa
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 | 09:42 AM
The film and story are absalootly fake but I still belive that nessie is real and could possiable go on land for short peroids of time like the mudlark fish that can leave the water for days at a time and is agile enough to climbs trees |
Max
in USA
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 | 10:23 AM
The book is a work of fiction. However, Steve Alten funded Bill McDonald's trip to investigate. Bill McDonald found slide trails which he thinks indicates it may be an Anguilla Eel. This eel can travel on land. Infact, the book theorizes that it may be a precursor to the Anguilla eel, that traveled to and from Loch Ness, look at the eel's migratory patterns, and was trapped in after road construction, or as the book suggests templar knights trying to protect the bruceheart, but in reality, road construction. This theory is perhaps one of the more sound theories I have heard about the creature, even though I am not in any way a reliable source, I have simply read the books and read many of the other proposed theories. Anguilla eels die after they spawn each year, and they can only spawn in salt-water. Since the eel could not reach salt water, being trapped in the loch, it never died after spawning, which resulted in a longer life span, and growing to an unusual size. Anguilla eels are found heavily in the loch, or so a few websites have said. |
Max
in USA
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 | 10:26 AM
Steve Alten/Bill McDonald proposes a very good theory. The problem with the acceptance of it is when people show up on message boards, and are unable to seperate the fact in the book from the fiction. Sorry, but the guy saying that the Templar Knights guiding the underwater gate in and out of the Loch and feeding the monster during the winter months, your mentally incapable of seperating the obvious "facts" in the book from the majority of the fiction. Steve Alten wrote this book before Bill McDonald's findings, and went back and altered it after, so the pieces of "Fact" are obviously juxtaposed in the story so you can easily tell where they are. |
Boo
in The Land of the Haggii...
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 | 10:29 AM
The problem with theories is that what we'd like to see is facts.
After all, the onus is on the theorist to prove something is true, rather than on the skeptic to prove that it is not. |
Max
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 | 11:34 AM
Well, some things steve points out in the book is that the reason all the sonar expeditions have failed is because the anguilla eel burrows into the mud at the bottom of the loch, so sonar would not see it. Also, when using active sonar to patrol the loch, the noise scares the eel off, although that could happen with any aquatic animal I guess. There are more, I will have to review it again and pull some more out. |
Citizen Premier
in spite of public outcry
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 | 04:36 PM
You know what's a really good theory about the Loch Ness monster? It doesn't exist. |
David B.
in Reading, England.
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 | 04:46 PM
Well, some things steve points out in the book is that the reason all the sonar expeditions have failed is because the anguilla eel burrows into the mud at the bottom of the loch, so sonar would not see it.
Actually, most sonar penetrates quite deep into sediment. Any large enough and solid enough creature should have been visible.
see http://www.ocean.cf.ac.uk/people/neil/sonar/pen.html |
Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 | 05:42 PM
Citizen Premier: nice to see this thread continue, Nessie being a classic HoaxOrNot story...Now, while the non-existence of Nessie is certainly a good possibility, if not a good probability, isn't it much more romantic and imaginative, to at least entertain the notion, that a great, big, possibly prehistoric in nature creature inhabits the dark depths of that beautiful, Scottish body of water? (That, Ladies and Germs, is the longest sentence I have ever used in a post here on MOH) whew |
Geoff
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 | 05:06 PM
Hello
I think too much faith is being put on Anguilla eels. Over 70 years would be a long time in an amphibian or reptile's life let alone grow to a phenomenal size assuming whatever Nessie was was caught in the Rhine sonar scan back in the late 70s. It's a shame that when the sonar scan of the entire Loch was done in the 90s and something was spotted in the backtrack that it wasn't properly investigated and put this to rest.
Whatever else it is, Nessie is constantly described as having a serpentine neck and a large body. Hardly a description of an eel.
I do agree it must still have a way out to the sea somehow. It would explain why Nessie only 'appears' for only a few months a year - and not always in the tourist season - and why there isn't a breeding colony.
Are there still reports of similar creatures coming in from across other deep freshwater lakes around the world or did the tourist momentum die out elsewhere??
Geoff |
Boo
in The Land of the Haggii...
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 | 05:24 PM
Hi Geoff.
Anguilla eels are most likely not in the loch. I think there's only one person on here who believes that.
Absence of proof, Geoff, absence of proof. There's never been a verified sighting of 'Nessie'. Never.
Now, I'm slightly bemused about this theory that 'Nessie' lives in both salt water and fresh water. Would anybody like to explain the logistics behind this? There's no 'season' during which it 'appears', either. |
Boo
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 | 06:43 PM
AND (just because it's already up at the top of the forum) everybody's arguing over what type of tooth it could be.
It's not necessarily organic. You can cast plaster, plastics, resins, hell, even metals.
Since the only evidence we have of it is a picture, I doubt it's even organic.
Thank you. Rant over. |
Max
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 | 09:53 AM
Anguilla eels are most likely not in the loch. I think there's only one person on here who believes that.
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Anguilla Eels's are all over the loch.
http://www.nessie.co.uk/nessie/fish.html
http://www.marlab.ac.uk/FRS.Web/Delivery/display_standalone.aspx?contentid=111 |
Winona
in USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 | 10:41 AM
Anguilla eels probably aren't nessie. According to this page, their maximum length is 133cm. Not quite Nessie proportions.
Also, it says: "Young eels spend their growing period in freshwater, males for 6-12 years, females for 9-20 years before ending their metamorphosis (Ref. 172, Ref. 51442). At the end of their growth period, they become sexually mature and the eels migrate to the sea where they inhabit deep waters. "
So, only up to adult size would they be in freshwaters like Loch Ness.
I found similar stats on other sites. |
Boo
in The Land of the Haggii...
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 | 04:11 PM
Ooops, sorry, what I meant is what Noni said.
That they certainly aren't the monster, rather than that they're not there... |
Accipiter
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 | 04:11 PM
Okay, from what I can follow, some people are saying that the Loch Ness Monster may actually be an Anguilla eel that was trapped in the loch, and so it couldn't continue with its normal life cycle where it would go to the sea, mate, and die. Thus it was able to grow to extreme size. But at the same time, it seems that there are such eels all over the loch who apparently have no such troubles. So would Nessie be an incredibly stupid eel that couldn't find its way out of the loch? Otherwise, I don't see how the eel theory would work. |
LesConsieurs
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 | 09:41 PM
It looks like an eagle's talon to me. |
LaMa
in Europe
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 | 04:02 AM
I completely agree with Acci |
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