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Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 | 09:03 PM
Light Orion said:
"I must have missed that point in your previous post. She has also asked to be tested and been refused, so it goes both ways."
Oh? Where and when did that happen? Even if it did, that, of course, would NOT explain why she broke her promise to be tested in the first place.
"People visit the Other Side when sleeping quite often, especially children, so communicating with the spirit of a child who was not dead would not be unusual if the child was sleeping."
So, people DIE while they're asleep? I know of a well-respected sleep clinic in the Bronx that would be fascinated to learn of this. Even if it was true (which it isn't), how do you know that the child in question was sleeping and "visiting the Other Side) when Sylvia was doing her voodoo?
As for her ex-husband being the source of the story about Sylvia saying she's a fraud and people who believe in her deserve to be taken, yes, that would be what I was referring to. I guess I misremembered it as being her son, for which I apologize, but it doesn't change my point.
Were you aware that Sylvia got into trouble for fraud in the past, by the way? No, that doesn't PROVE that her "psychic" act is fraudulent, but it sure doesn't lend credence to it, either, does it? |
Psychic Dr. truth
in edmond, ok
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 | 05:43 PM
Damn I'm good.
So if nothing anyone writes online is true, then all these sites you point to are handing out false information too. And you yourself are lying. So why spread the lies?
And why ask the question if you refuse to believe the answer?
Because, this isn't about whether Sylvia is a fraud or not. It's your venting bazaar.
Venting is good but the malice and hatred you harbor are only damaging your own psyche. Have you ever tried meditation? |
psychic dr. truth
in edmond, ok
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 | 05:56 PM
Orion - I must admit that I would never have Tarot done because I fear that it may be demonic. That probably sounds really silly but you are right about the fear part. I don't know that it is demonic and since I've been warned that it is, that pretty much scares me off it completely.
Sadly, I could never have it done just to check out if it's true or not. But maybe Cranky can have it done and report since he fears nothing. But the report may be biased. What is really needed to evaluate psychic phenomena and such is an independent, and impartial observer who does not already have preconceived notions about whether it's real or not.
I don't think the Randi challenge applies since they already have a preconceived notion of what a psychic should be able to do even if the psychic they are testing does not claim to do the same. Don't they test whether you can read cards you can't see from another room or something like that? I am psychic and I know I can't read cards like that. Honestly, I'm just a really good people reader. If I say such and such a person is a serial killer, are they really going to admit to testers that they are? No.
This is one of those things where people have different opinions and I don't see a problem with that since in the end, we will all know who was right anyway. And noone can guarantee that their viewpoint is 100% positive. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 | 03:04 AM
"Psychic" "Dr." "Truth" said:
"Damn I'm good."
At what now?
"So if nothing anyone writes online is true, then all these sites you point to are handing out false information too. And you yourself are lying. So why spread the lies?"
Where did I say that NOTHING anyone writes online is true? Nothing like putting words in my mouth, then refuting what I never said, huh?
Let me be as clear as possible. There are MANY things online I believe. One of them, however, is NOT your claim to be a medical doctor.
Sorry, I just don't believe that someone would devote perhaps ten years of their life to studying something (medicine) which requires rigorous adherence to scientific method, but also dabble in nonsense which amounts to "if I believe in it, despite all evidence to the contrary, it's true."
That just wouldn't be rational. You're not irrational, are you, "Doc?"
"Orion - I must admit that I would never have Tarot done because I fear that it may be demonic. That probably sounds really silly but you are right about the fear part."
Well, you're right about part of that--it DOES sound VERY silly. Yes, "Doc," demons live in a deck of cards. Do you mention that when you attend reunions at your medical school? Do people laugh SO hard that water comes out their nose? I'm guessing they would, IF you actually had a medical school reunion to go to.
"Sadly, I could never have it done just to check out if it's true or not. But maybe Cranky can have it done and report since he fears nothing."
When did I say I fear nothing? I can tell you that, as a rational person who doesn't lie about having a medical degree, I certainly don't fear a DECK OF CARDS. Unless, of course, you plan on shoving them into my eye. Since you're a "medical doctor," though, you wouldn't do that (Hippocratic Oath) and if you DID, you could perform (psychic?) surgery on me. So, no worries on this end about a DECK OF CARDS.
"I don't think the Randi challenge applies since they already have a preconceived notion of what a psychic should be able to do even if the psychic they are testing does not claim to do the same. Don't they test whether you can read cards you can't see from another room or something like that? I am psychic and I know I can't read cards like that."
You're a "psychic" who apparantly won't bother to go to randi.org and READ how the tests are conducted. What you're thinking of, "Doc," is testing for ESP using so-called Zener cards. For a "scientist," you show remarkably little intellectual curiosity, preferring to make incorrect guesses about what Randi does.
Since different people claim different abilities, the testing must be different for each person. Testing protocol is specifically designed (and agreed to in advance by the testee) for each case.
"Honestly, I'm just a really good people reader. If I say such and such a person is a serial killer, are they really going to admit to testers that they are? No."
So, in other words, you have "abilities" that amount to nothing more than intuition, but which you consider "psychic" and which cannot be tested scientifically. Wow. Gee, if only there was such a thing as "double-blind testing" which would eliminate the problem of lying. Hmm, you'd think that a person with scientific training, like a medical doctor would have gone through, would know about basic scientific concepts like that.
You were probably such a good student, though, that they skipped you over that introductory stuff and put you right into the brain surgery course, huh? |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 | 03:27 AM
Since the topic of this thread is actually Sylvia Brown(e) and NOT my allegedly misaligned chakras, here's some fun reading for you:
http://www.stopsylviabrowne.com/articles/novusspiritus_thesefreaks.shtml |
LightOrion
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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 | 05:31 PM
I've seen that one. It's sad that anyone else acting that way is just having a bad day and it is accepted, but if you're famous and you have a bad day there must be something wrong with you. I didn't say anyone dies when they are asleep, your spirit can get out and wander around without your body dying, that's what they call an out of body experience. Of course, I would not expect you to accept that, because I read on page one of this thing that you deny the existence of all things supernatural? Does that include God? If so, I feel sorry for you. |
LightOrion
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Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 | 05:58 PM
Doctor,
Tarot cards are simply tools, whether they are good or evil depends on how they are used. Nobody calls a knife evil if it is used to chop vegetables, but if it is used to stab someone it is not the knife's fault. Unfortunately, Tarot is one of the easiest things to be skeptical about because (until you learn other ways to read them) many practitioners use the interpretations fro the book and see which ones match up with something in the questioner's life. Even so, I've found uncanny accuracy in my own use of the cards. They tend to not be affected by passing spirits as a Ouija board can be because they are too complex and as far as demons possessing them, inanimate objects cannot be possessed only manipulated and only then if they are simple objects like a photograph or a pointer. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 | 03:51 AM
Light Orion said (referring to tarot cards):
"They tend to not be affected by passing spirits as a Ouija board can be because they are too complex and as far as demons possessing them, inanimate objects cannot be possessed only manipulated and only then if they are simple objects like a photograph or a pointer."
Nonsense, utter nonsense.
Tarot cards are nothing more than props for someone doing a "psychic" act. Some of them are sincere and actually believe they have "psychic" powers and some are consciously engaging in cold reading, using the cards to buy time as they think up generic things to say.
Little pieces of cardboard CANNOT embody "spirits."
As for Ouija boards, do some research on the "idiomotor effect" some time. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 | 03:53 AM
"...I read on page one of this thing that you deny the existence of all things supernatural? Does that include God? If so, I feel sorry for you."
Yes, that includes God.
Tell you what, "Light Orion." If you drop the unwarranted condescion, I won't call you an idiot for believing in childish nonsense. Deal? |
Rachel
in Albany, NY
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 | 05:34 PM
Sylvia charges $750 a "reading."
Her psychic son, Christopher, charges a discounted $450 a reading.
Ms. Brown says she does 10 to 20 readings a week. This is $7,500 to $15,000 a week. Taking 2 weeks off for appearances on Montel, this means she clearing $750,000 a year. An amount that doesn't include income from books and appearances.
Hey, I think I'll become a psychic too. Sure beats the 9-to-5 grind, eh? |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 | 03:31 AM
Yup, Rachel, Sylvia has a pretty good scam going. Unless, of course, the authorities come in and shut it down on the grounds of practicing medicine without a license (which Sylvia seems to do on a frequent basis).
It should be noted that we don't actually KNOW that she does 10 to 20 readings a week. She COULD be lying about that, although given her frequent appearances on Montel and Larry King, it doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility. |
jean crane
in va.
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 | 12:40 PM
montel show,I watch your show for A while, until, I heard sylvia brown,if you would read the BIBLE, you would see the damage she has on people.This show has people on it that believes her.I pray nobody kills somebody or there self for the things she says to them.Why don't your show have GOD fearing preachers to ask her questions.You might find out how to be saved.Is money the only thing you people think of.I pray GOD, shows you mercy.Thank you,for your time. |
ladyfalcon
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 | 03:07 PM
When are people going to wise up. This woman is a monumental fake. She uses people's life shattering experiences to make a fortune. Shawn (who needs a lesson in spelling) had commented that Sylvia predicted the death of the pope, well no duh !! He was very ill and very old, I could of predicted that one !! This womam is a joke and I don't understand why anyone would pay to get bogus information from the old bat. If you people are so intent on giving away money, then donate it to a worthy cause, such as The American Cancer Society, Homeless shelters, The Red Cross.....She will burn in Hell for shafting so many grieving people. I hope the process begins sooner than later. |
ladyfalcon
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 | 03:26 PM
Light Orion, Wow what an idiot you are..Sylvia Browne's few mistakes??? I have yet to see any correct predictions !! She is a fake, totally, and anyone who stands up for this wrinkled old crone, needs serious therapy !! She plays on others grief and sadness and loss and makes millions doing it...She is vague and pathetic, and it amazes me that anyone listens to her at all. But, of couse there are always dildos like you who are easily lead around by the nose. So you better stand up for something or someone who has some credability, and she has none of that !! |
jane
in new york
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 | 02:11 PM
sylvia browne is a dumbass phoney |
doree spencer
in elk grove
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 | 12:34 PM
Sylvia Brown has helped many in this world, i think it is horrible what people are saying, i am devastated. I am angry that robert lancaster was bored one day and decided to write bullshit about her.that,is not right. you peopl dont know her,and if you had any intuition inside you,you would see what a lovely careing mother grama and friend that she is. leave her alone, shes earned every single penny. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 | 02:44 PM
Doree Spencer said:
"I am angry that robert lancaster was bored one day and decided to write bullshit about her.that,is not right."
The critics of Sylvia hardly got "bored one day." Why don't you visit StopSylviaBrowne.com? You'd see many very detailed reasons why Sylvia is a fake.
It isn't "helping people" to make up nonsense and (in my opinion) practice medicine without a license by telling them what to and what not to take for their alleged conditions. That is extremely dangerous.
Sylvia could prove that she actually has "psychic" abilities if she would just keep her word and take the JREF Million Dollar Challenge. She won't, though, because she knows she would fail miserably. |
doree spencer
in elk grove
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 | 03:05 PM
Dear cranky media guy, i have heard syylvia state many times on the motel williams show, after telling certain people of there ailments,that i am not a doctor and hon, you should really go see one. so what do you mean by she practices medicine without license? she always refers them to go see there doctors--from doree |
doree spencer
in elk grove
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 | 03:08 PM
and i already have visited stop sylvia browne what ever website,and no thanks. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 | 01:44 AM
Doree Spencer said:
"so what do you mean by she practices medicine without license?"
Well, since she isn't a doctor, she has no business diagnosing people. If you've seen her on Montel or in person, then you've seen her tell people what ailment(s) they have and what she thinks she should take for it/them.
Yes, she sometimes says she isn't a doctor but she DOES represent herself as a person who can "psychically" determine what's wrong with a person, which is VERY irresponsible.
Since you say you've visited StopSylviaBrowne.com, why don't you give us some FACTS that refute some of the things that are said about her there. Remember, just telling us that you BELIEVE in her is not the same thing as REFUTING criticisms of her. |
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