Myst
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 | 12:54 PM
May she finally find some peace. |
Mark-N-Isa
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 | 12:57 PM
My question about that guy (her husband) is this. Why did he wait 15 years before deciding that removal of the feeding tube is what she would have wanted? The "legal" battles concerning this are only recent... he hasn't been trying to remove it for the last 15 years, only recently. So why now? |
Evildream
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 | 03:07 PM
you try paying 15 years of fees with nothing to show for it! |
Rod
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 | 03:16 PM
Oh, you mean like the return parents get from spending money on their kids for 18 years? |
Mark-N-Isa
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 | 03:39 PM
He didn't pay SHIT Evil... there was a lawsuit (medical malpractice) filed by him on her behalf. The results of that lawsuit were an award that was well over 1,000,000. I think something like 2.5 million actually. So anyways, he hasn't been paying for crap. I think the cash is gone now, maybe he doesn't want to pay any for it... so why not just let her parents care for her. My point about this guy is he's shifty. If it was about her wishes, then why ever install the feeding tube to begin with? Just so she could make it through the lawsuit? Then why not remove right after that took place 14 years ago? He should have let her parents decide her future, especially considering he's already got someone else in his life. He has lived with another woman for years, even has two kids with her, so what should he care. I just don't buy that it's what "she" would have preferred, otherwise, she'd have never been on a feeding tube to begin with. |
Winona
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 | 03:39 PM
The legal battles have been going on for 7 years now, I wouldn't say that's too recent. 😉
Even with Erik's directives of pulling him off life support I would wait a certain period of time before I did so, so that I can get all possible opinions on his possible recovery. (He knows this). I could project and say he -might have- done the same. He then got the settlement in 1997, which is when the family arguments began. After that is about where the 7 years of court battles started.
For the record, they are saying only about $40K of the settlement is left after treatments etc. |
Winona
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 | 03:41 PM
My sources for the dates are cnn.com, in case I'm right or wrong on them. |
Citizen Premier
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 | 03:58 PM
Well, as my dad told me, "Well, if you can keep me alive as a vegetable, and generate a lot of hype, and then make millions when you write a book about it, go for it!" |
Myst
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 | 04:09 PM
Mark-N-Jen,
I wish I could find the link for the story I read regarding the settlement. Yes he did get a settlement and that money went towards her care. Her parents even fought with him over the money, they thought they should get the money instead of him, this makes me question the parents' motives. Now this <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/29/politics/29donate.html?">parents of Terri Schiavo have authorized a conservative direct-mailing firm to sell a list of their financial supporters</a>, really makes me wonder about the parents' motives.
Oh and according to this <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Brain-Damaged-Woman.html?pagewanted=2">Attorney for Terri Schiavo's Husband Says She Has Died</a> the settlement was $1 million |
Rod
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 | 04:12 PM
So is she really dead, or is it all a hoax?
😕
(This said as half of the national focus switches back to baby-bangers, inc) |
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 | 06:53 PM
Isn't it great how death brings families together? Or rather, wouldn't it be great if they did? |
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 | 11:52 PM
I hope her family can sue him for a wrongful death. He is cruel and heartless. I would not be surprised if he did not sit in front of her and eat those last days and tell her how good everything tasted. If I was his new lover I would run as fast as I could and not look back. It was terrible to deny her family to be with her when she took her last breath. I hope that the autopsy reveals foul play on his part and that it voids his insurnance on her. And he is left with nothing. They said that they tested her blood and that they found no enzymes in it that would indicate that she had had a heart attack. She was strangled untill she lost oxygen and that is what caused the brain damage. No matter what he has to answer to a higher power than the power he thinks that he has. |
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 | 12:00 AM
didnt anyone hear about the bone scan that was done on terri?
they found trauma to her legs and a broken back.
rumour is the husband was beating her up. |
Rod
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 | 12:03 AM
Translation...
BLAH BLAH BLAH.
Conspiracy? What's that? Something the aliens brought with them? Or was it jesus?
Sorry, but this crap is geting WAY too old, and I warned people I'd start to get all pissy.
I can hardly wait for all the tv movies and books that are coming out (No sarcasm there at ALL). And you know they're already in the works (unfortunately, no sarcasm here). |
Smerk
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 | 12:58 AM
Don't forget all the people who are going to use the Terry Shiavo court case as a test case to let their loved ones die. Actually, this happened here just last week - 29 y/o guy with Huntingtons disease, and his parents want to withdraw life support...damn, can't find the article online. It was definitely in our newspaper a week or so ago though. |
Smerk
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 | 12:59 AM
Rod, your avatar's frothing at the mouth again! 😉 |
Rod
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 | 01:09 AM
Yeah, the frothing thing never seems to go away, no matter how I draw it, the pixels are just too large to draw decent fangs.
But I did improve on the dome, though...
You know, eventually Alex is gonna send the Hitman.com guys after me if I keep editing it.
And they'll get here right after the boxes from LUE. |
Smerk
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 | 01:19 AM
Yes. Those boxes are a long time coming. As for Hitman...you appear to have a skill to create so many convoluted identies that they may not be able to find you. Although you gotta make sure they're foolproof! 😊 |
Rod
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 | 01:30 AM
But, if they were totally foolproof, I never would have been able to create them myself...
😊
Actually, when I went downtown the other day (about 750 people live here) I saw a HUGE stack of empty boxes on the corner by the drugstore, on the front sidewalk. I'm not sure what they were doing (they restock through the back), but I had to explain to the pharmacist why I was laughing so hard.
He didn't think it was quite as humorous as I did. |
Rod
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 | 01:32 AM
Maybe I should just re-name my avatar "Zombie Alex visits New York" |
Rod
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 | 01:32 AM
Okay, "RABID Zombie Alex Visits New York". |
Smerk
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 | 01:37 AM
If you rename him "zombie Alex" you're gonna have to make the eyes white, not green! And make the flesh look a little more corpse-like... |
Rod
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 | 01:42 AM
Hmm, it looks like I've got something to do tomorry!
(just a plain old smiley here, cause there's not one in the list...)
Maybe I'll give him a Dawn of the Dead (or better, Shawn of the Dead) background...
😊 |
Smerk
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 | 02:02 AM
Can't wait! 😊 |
Rod
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 | 02:09 AM
Give it about twelve hours or so, I should have SOMETHING by then... |
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 | 11:24 AM
Taylor-
I feel that you are missing the point. I see no point in attacking this man for what he has done. He tried his very best to take care of his wife and keep her as happy as she could be. He stopped by the hospital everday to see his wife Taylor, doesn't that show at least some sign of love that he has for his wife. Everyday for 15 years... So I don't understand how you can call him cruel and heartless after that. All you do is attack Terri's husband, who are you to say that if you were his new wife you should pack up your things and run.
Maybe we don't know the details of why he did not let Terri's family be there when she took her last breath. We know that the two did not get along very well in the first place, her husband thought it would have been best if she was put to death while her parents wanted her alive, maybe the husband was trying to make things easier for the family, we just don't know all the details.
And lastly Taylor, just because there were no enzymes that were found in her to indicate a heart attack you cannot just assume she was strangled... How does that even make sense? There are numerous possibilities of what could have happened. I am sorry you feel so negative towards the decision that he has made but you are not the husband in this situation, nor know know much of the inner details that went on between the family and the husband. I hope that you can rethink your position on this and maybe take things a little easier on Terri's husband. |
Mark-N-Isa
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 | 04:49 PM
Myst & Winona,
Thanks for the info. I guess I should have been a little clearer in my statements in order to show that I was unsure of what I "thought" I had heard about the case.
I had heard about the lawsuit / settlement but was UNSURE of the exact amounts. I also assumed that these actions he was taking (to remove life support) were recent because I hadn't previously heard of this. That too, was an incorrect assumption. My questions about the whole thing were what led to my posting them here. I doubted the motives of her husband when this started and now I doubt not only his, but her parents as well!
What can ya do but keep on pluggin'? 😖 |
Winona
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 | 02:23 PM
Or unplugging as the case may be. 😉 |
Maegan
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 | 11:35 AM
...Her parents have some info on terrisfight.org, or .net or something...but of course, it's biased. I couldn't find anything specifically FOR Michael Schiavo.
I think the tubes should never have been put in. |
Maegan
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 | 11:37 AM
Oh...And I can't remember if I mentioned it here, on another thread...but her heart problems had been due to an eating disorder.
Frankly, if she'd woken up, I wouldn't have doubted if she'd have killed herself anyway. People with eating disorders have a distorted view of beauty & health... |
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 | 12:45 PM
What dignified person would ever want to be seen in a state like hers? |
Myst
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 | 12:12 AM
Maegan, it was exactly that.
Snip from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_Shiavo">Wikipedia</a>
Her cardiac arrest is believed to have been caused by bulimia-induced hypokalemia (abnormally low levels of potassium in the blood). At the time of her hospital admission, her blood potassium level was 2.0 mEq/L; the normal range for adults is 3.5-5.0. Medical records noted that "she apparently has been trying to keep her weight down with dieting by herself, drinking liquids most of the time during the day and drinking about 10-15 glasses of iced tea."
Citizen,I wouldn't want to be. |
Mark-N-Isa
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 | 01:14 AM
Winona,
Just seen what you wrote! Very bad yet very funny. Could not stop laughing...
:lol: |
Maegan
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 | 05:56 AM
See. It was HER fault there was a problem with her heart.
Idiot. Everyone knows you can't SURVIVE on iced tea! You've got to have a mint julep now & again. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 | 09:51 PM
"Actually, this happened here just last week - 29 y/o guy with Huntingtons disease, and his parents " posted back in May of 05 by Smerk ...
quick technical comment ... Huntingtons is hereditary and cannot jump a generation ... it's fatal in 30's or so ... therefore "parents" is not possible ... unless not biological. |
Smerk
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 | 07:07 PM
Chuck, you need to do your research on Huntington's disease a little better. Yes, the disease is hereditary. The guy in question could have been nursed by his parents, even if one of them has the same disease.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huntington's :
"Onset of Huntington's disease seems to be correlated to the number of CAG repeats a person has in their HD gene. Generally, the higher the number of repeats the sooner onset is. [7] The number of repeats may change slightly with each successive generation, so that the age of onset may vary as well. Symptoms of Huntington |
