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L K Tucker
in Montgomery Alabama
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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 | 08:28 PM
There may be a post missing, removed. I responded to a specific post on march 16th and I was not responding to Dr Scott.
Repeat my March 16 comment was not made to Dr Scott. |
L K Tucker
in Montgomery Alabama
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 | 10:33 PM
Kundalini Girl,
The problem posting that here is the 4000 character limit.
Unless you have an understanding of the physiology of subliminal sight and how the startle reflex is formed it takes much more space to put it all together.
So I posted a new page that does all that.
Go to the site, VisionAndPsychosis.Net and click the new Subliminal Distraction link.
Is that what you wanted? |
Ron
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 | 09:26 AM
LK,
did you read about the taxi driver in UK? It was the last couple days. Here's a snippet of the article:
"The landlady of Derrick Bird's local pub has said that he was a easy-going man and never appeared aggressive.
Police have said that Mr Bird killed 12 people and injured 11 on a rampage across Cumbria." |
L K Tucker
in Montgomery Alabama
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 | 02:09 PM
I did notice that but there is nothing in the reporting that would connect if firmly with the metal event from Subliminal Distraction. I would guess SD is the cause but there is no evidence. Visit my the Culture Bound Syndromes page. Sudden violence has different names around the world, iich'aa among the Navajo, Amok in Malaysia, and Going Postal here.
If you search the mass shooting cases every one has a pet theory they put forth when one happens.
In 2008 a video game playing temporary worker in Japan rented a two ton truck, drove it into a crowd, jumped out and stabbed seventeen killing seven. Video game violence is likely SD exposure.
An electronics factory in China, Foxconn, has had about ten suicides this year. They have dormitories for workers so they never leave the site. What would you bet they don't use Cubicle Level Protection on the factory work floor?
There have been five mass knife murders at Chinese kindergartens and elementary schools. When guns are not present the killer chooses some other method and manages to disable victims to kill them.
I did finally make contact with Joe Morse's roommate from Ga Tech. He supplied a sketch of their dorm set up that shows Morse had Subliminal Distraction exposure. He vanished the day of finals while others were packing to go home. After withdrawing his last $120 from an ATM he flew to Miami where he broke into a construction site, climbed a 187 foot crane and jumped. It took four years for the Tech police department to locate him. He as been an unidentified suicide. There is a new page with those three diagrams. Look in the new pages section. |
Ron
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 | 11:25 PM
Do you have any idea if animals are subject to SD? |
L K Tucker
in Montgomery Alabama
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 | 08:23 AM
No this is a human problem. They don't engage deep mental investment for hours like humans. In fact, both humans and animals have the reaction to detected movement. But that's where it stops.
Animals must always react to movement around them. They never learn to ignore it. If they could do that they wouldn't survive. |
Ron
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 | 02:39 PM
Yes, thats true about animals. In fact, deep mental investment and the ability to concentrate for long periods is relatively new even in the human species. It seems to have developed through the usage of the very important tool.. the book.
So we may not necessarily be 'evolutionarily prepared' for it. And hypothetically, there is a conflict between learned trait, and the evolutionary hardware of the brain?
I still do not understand how the people in ICU are involved in deep mental investment or concentration. There is a huge difference between meditation and daydreaming. I would imagine that most people lying down, and idle, would be more prone to daydreaming not sharp mental focus. |
L K Tucker
in Montgomery Alabama
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 | 08:59 PM
It's the dissociation of for things happening around you that engages the opportunity for a startle.
You are correct there is a large difference in study, meditation, reading a book, or daydreaming. But they all involve the same level of disengagement for things happening around you.
In the ICU there is nothing to do but think or daydream. I was surprised when I found a report of a study that there could be more than two hundred visits to the bedside of an ICU patient.
The order of my investigation was to locate places the sudden unexplained mental breaks happen then explore that activity to find a source of Subliminal Distraction.
To confuse the issue in the ICU there is the possibility that delirium happens because of medical conditions or drug treatment.
In addition the possibility exists that someone in an ICU bed had a job or activity that exposed them to a near threshold for the mental event before they were confined in the ICU.
My object is to locate a preponderance of evidence for Subliminal Distraction as a source of behaviors we call mental illness.
As the next stage is investigated some of the previously proposed solutions may have to be modified as evidence is uncovered. The investigation will have to go where the evidence leads. |
Ron
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 | 12:39 PM
I think driving definitely could lead to SD because many people do daydream while driving. This would explain a lot of the instances of road rage. The longer you are on the road, and depending on your personality, you would be more prone to SD exposure.
I don't agree with you that all mental illness can be described by youre theory. That is going way too far... we already have a decent model for depression, in 'learned pessimism'. This model works for animals as well, and has been corroborated through numerous experiments. It also lends itself well to treatment through CBT.
Also Bipolar disorder is probably the only mental illness that is believed to have biological/ chemical origins.
And then you have ergot poisoning which is believed to cause a number of mass hysterias in different cases in Europe and America. |
L K Tucker
in Montgomery Alabama
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 | 07:32 PM
OK... you are making the same mistake everyone else does. You assert the "disorders" of the DSM as if they actually existed as diseases. They don't. They are names given to observed and grouped behaviors. The experts don't known how they are related or where one stops and another begins. For instance panic attacks happen with too many of the "disorders" to be there by random chance. But the "connection" is not known.
Stop! Forget everything you think you know about psychology and mental illness. WHY? It was all developed without the knowledge that Subliminal Distraction exists. There has been no research about SD.
Look at PTSD. Someone with trauma gets a PTSD diagnosis but the same symptoms without trauma get some other diagnosis. Nonsense! The behaviors and symptoms are the same. There is no mechanism that would cause remotely experienced trauma to reemerge to cause symptoms.
Army Engineers building the ALCAN highway in 1942 had mental breaks while driving bulldozers. True to form the mental events were blamed on isolation and the rigors of primitive living conditions without any evidence. Similar episodes for combat soldiers were blamed on the stress of combat. Nonsense!
Your evaluation starts with a behavior and tries to work backwards to find a cause. I start with a feature of physiology known to cause mental problems and work forward to explain behaviors.
The next step is to gather evidence through cases to argue that hypothesis.
A simpler solution is to inform college students of the problem and allow them to make a personal informed decision to implement Cubicle Level Protection.
This would cost nothing and would quickly lower the mental health problems in college as well as suicides. Isn't it worth a try?
I have written Virginia Tech twice, the Governor of the State of Virginia as well as others. The usual response is that since this phenomenon is not recognized by the APA they have no duty to investigate it.
Would you want to admit that you missed a problem discovered and solved forty years ago and thus cost the lives of 33 people. The death toll is much higher across the country.
Let me ask: In all those studies and papers was Subliminal Distraction eliminated as a factor. Did any study control for it?
The studies and models fail to take everything into account. Most of them could be considered invalid.
(I am having a dental abscess problem with pain and cannot think to night.) Go to the new Drug page under construction and link to the drug studies arguments.
Experts believe because there was improvement with the application of a therapy the therapy must have caused the improvement. Failure to include and control for SD invalidates those conclusions.
It's not too late for you or anyone else to participate to investigate this phenomenon. |
Steven Loring, Ph.D
in Chapel Hill, NC
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 | 05:51 PM
This is sad. It's clear that the author of this particular string of stream-of-consciousness rants is himself paranoid, at the very least. In fact, I'd wager that he meets criteria for a psychotic-spectrum diagnosis, rendering all this nonsense at least a little bit ironic.
I'd kind of like to see him "go public" about this emergent threat to the world's sanity by way of some public demonstration, so that he might be compelled to receive the treatment he so clearly needs. LK, have you seen the film "A Beautiful Mind?" You remind me of its depiction of John Nash. You clearly are unaware that your "theories" are deluded, just as Dr. Nash could never be certain whether his friends, colleagues, and jobs actually existed. |
L K Tucker
in Montgomery Alabama
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 | 08:02 PM
My information is from psychology lectures. Subliminal Distraction, a normal feature in everyone's physiology of sight, is basic course material in psychophysics.
Cubicle Level Protection has been used for forty years.
You, like others posting here, have not bothered to pick up a phone and call to determine that what I am telling you is true.
With my health problems I may not live to complete this project but someone will.
If you have access to your university psychology department I am searching for a text book reference for Subliminal Distraction. It is usually in lecture material not text books. |
Steven Loring, Ph.D.
in Chapel Hill, NC
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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 | 10:36 PM
By what standard would you determine the point at which your "project" is "complete?"
Incidentally, I am a recently retired psychology professor who taught hundreds of hours' worth of psychology courses. While my primary area of focus was/is clinical psychology, I have kept abreast of the research in sensation and perception, and yours are the only references I have ever heard to "Subliminal Distraction," "Cubicle Level Protection," and other such concepts.
That's not because you're a revolutionary thinker whose ideas are too cutting-edge to have been accepted by the scientific community. It's because those ideas are nonsensical, conspiratorial, and ludicrous.
Good luck with your ongoing "project." The fact that you're discussing it here, on an Internet forum devoted to hoaxes, essentially says it all. |
L K Tucker
in Montgomery Alabama
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 | 02:09 AM
I have encountered your position from other long term psychology instructors. What I cannot understand is the attitude these people demonstrate. They have a degree, one or two years experience, then a twenty year career of repetition. That somehow qualifies them as experts.
I sat in class in 1990 and heard this phenomenon explained at Shelton State Junior College. They had the contract for the nurse's training for Druid City Hospital. I was attempting to recover from multiple spinal fusion operations and total disability. That course was identical to the one at the University of Alabama. They used the same textbook. I took the course so I would have something to do for an extra hour in the afternoon before I picked up my wife from work.
I got the term 'Cubicle Level Protection' from a designer/engineer working for Church & Stagg, the Steelcase dealer, in Birmingham Alabama.
He claimed not to know the correct term for the problem. He checked with Steelcase and said they didn't know what it was called either.
A design student in Australia emailed me for permission to use my site in her thesis. She supplied the term "Subliminal Distraction." She too saw the potential for serious outcomes from exposure.
My original contact with it was in the mid 1960's. I read a newspaper story that an office worker had "gone crazy" because something was moving behind her. We argued all day about it. Our computer instructor that afternoon, FORTRAN on a mainframe, said it was true because he remembered when it was discovered, 1964/68.
It has appeared on TV magazine type programs more than once. My barber in McDonough Ga. said she had seen it on a medical show on Dish Network in about 2005.
Designers see only the limited exposure in business offices. They believe it can only cause a harmless temporary episode.
When my wife had a psychotic break thirty days after her office was changed eliminating Cubicle Level Protection it was three weeks before I remembered it and realized what had happened.
This is not secret information but it is closely held. You may have to phone several designers before you find one willing to discuss it with you. They apparently do not want to be the "go to" person for information to be used in a suit against a customer or employer.
When I began I posted a question on an architecture site, 2002, and that page is linked on my Home page. I was accused of being an attorney trying to get information for a suit.
When will the project be complete? I could give you a long answer but I would be happy if I could get a major university involved in the investigation.
I would consider it a success if I could get a warning given to college students and a warning on every computer and piece of software sold.
I probably won |
yn
in pakistan
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 | 04:44 AM
This is an interesting article on a related subject: http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/928/subtle-distractions-more-annoying |
The extraterrestrial who abducted L K Tucker in 19
in Cydonia, Mars
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 | 11:39 PM
Am I reading your rambling, incoherent website correctly? Do you seriously think blind people are "immune" to mental health problems?
L K, L K, L K. My alien overlords and I implanted far more plausible conspiracy theories in your head than this one. What a disappointment. |
L K Tucker
in Montgomery Alabama
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 | 02:29 PM
The completely blind or blind from birth do not have schizophrenia or panic attacks.
If you can find cases list them. One site claims there have been only two such cases in all the history of investigation literature.
There are cases where someone had mental illness and went blind but not the other way around.
That does not include low sight or legally blind or loss of central sight. It means full loss of all sight.
It would not include behaviors caused by drug or substance abuse either. There are diseases that can cause mental problems such as Creutzfeldt |
Allison
in usa
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 | 11:49 PM
The author of this suggestive site is doing what many who wish to brain wash others do--supplies factual information without supplying the full content, thus distorting the cause of the event to suit his own theory. Case in point--the Alaskan expedition he cites as an example does not give the full explanantion and he poses that the insanity was caused by his SD. In fact, this expedition was featured in a documentary on PBS, and the ship's food stores were contaminated. They ate from canned food, and the method and metal used in the canning caused a real physical illness resulting in hallucinations and death, apart from the death caused by freezing and starvation. |
L K Tucker
in Montgomery Alabama
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 | 08:06 PM
The case you attempt to cite was Antarctic not Alaskan. The source used for the page Astronauts & Insanity is Fredric Cook's book "Through the First Antarctic Night."
Dr Cook blamed the constant darkness and isolation until the spring brought around the clock sunlight. The cases of insanity got worse. Then he blamed that situation, constant sunlight.
The return of sunlight would not have made conditions worse if the problem was food contamination. The general condition would have stayed at a constant level not gotten worse.
The crew survived on food they hunted and killed. The hunts were organized by Dr. Cook. Late into the expedition they would have run out of canned food. But, again, the insanity got worse for some crew members late into the expedition.
Dr Cook ate the same thing everyone else did and he was never effected. How is that possible if the problem was food contamination?
Dr Cook was the only crew member who kept up with his regular duties instead of sitting around doing nothing. (The scientists did things like rewriting their journals and experiments, knowledge work.)
The crew returned to normal when they worked out side chopping the ship out of the ice.
These mental breaks have happened for over a hundred years. Admiral Byrd took one casket but twelve straight jackets on his expeditions.
Yes, experts have blamed a variety of things including poor quality people used because they had the training to exist in the conditions of the expedition.
If you can cite the program or a DVD of it I will try to investigate but I can't promise anything.
If Subliminal Distraction is a serious problem evidence exists. It would have to be in plain sight and available to anyone with the key to understanding what to look for.
That is the point of the pages such as Culture Bound Syndromes. These mental breaks happen around the world and have done so for centuries. There was no canned food when Ghost Sickness appeared among plains Indians or when Windigo Psychosis appeared in the Northern US and Canada natives.
It is the totality of the site that argues this is a serious problem unknown by anyone in medicine or psychiatry.
Others are slowly moving to the conclusion that drugs used for psychiatric treatment do little or nothing. Visit the new Drug page. |
crumpet
in San Francisco
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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 | 07:55 PM
I think LK Tucker has an intriguing idea that needs a further research and work.
For some reason people get angry and jump to dismiss it because his website layout is not professional or because the wording is not precise
Remember he is not a trained psychology scientist and perhaps doesn't know how to rigorously formulate his hypothesis.
His ideas do sound crazy, but that's how anything new starts. They may be true, they may be false.
Like any theory it needs to be supported by evidence and experiments, aka the scientific method, which the LKT may not have the means/time/ability to perform.
I wonder if anyone to date has scientifically looked into LK's hypothesis and if they stopped the research what was the reason.
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