Okay,
according to this TV show I saw, the Titanic never sank.
It's sister ship had a hole in it somewhere and so the owners disguised it
as the Titanic and sunk it for the huge insurance payments?!
Some have said that the Titanic is actually now being used as a private
ferry for Hitler!
listen you guys
The olympic was scraped in the 30's
The titanic hit an iceberg and sank
it sank not because the ice berg riped a
hole in it but because the things holding the sheets of metal werent melted and the metal was used. and also when the last piece went down
it was proved a small piece of metal was actually keeping the two pieces of the titanic
together untill it went completly down. thats why the pieces are so close together. The titanic was real and how dare anyone say the sinking was a hoax. The Captain of the ship
and a few other people who where on board where in my family so please stop. If you want anymore proof the titanic wasnt a hoax look online and find out that in the ship it said at the top of the clock in the grand staircase it said rms. titanic. What else is there to say. If it wasnt for the titanic more ships would have probably had the same fate. Just think that it was the mns falt who made the ship because they used used materials because they were secretly building the britanic. oh and have you notice that ever since on the titanic everyone said not even god could sink this ship and it sank. And also the sister ships of the titanic sank to. The lustiana, the Mustiana, The britanic, all the voyagers, and even the titanic 2 sunk. isnt that odd.
Oh YOu all need to read up on your history. I personally know one of the key players who found the Titanic and also has (documented) the most decents to the Ship as well as taken part in of most of the explorations of the Titanic. Yes I said it the TITANIC. My friend can be seen in The IMAX film on the Titanic and most other documentarys on the great ship. Have more questions ask away as I have sent him the link to this.... Unknowing group of amatures.
>>Have more questions ask away as I have sent him the link to this.... Unknowing group of amatures. <<
Danielle,
There's no need for sweeping personal abuse (condemning every contributor to this thread), especially when that abuse is founded on your own ignorance of what others are arguing.
Rick has argued *against* the conspiracy on this very page, as have I: I've outlined numerous reasons why the conspiracy did not take place on my own website, ranging from an unused SKY TV interview to my own dissertation criticising/debunking the theory's key assertions.
Perhaps if you were aware of what I (and others) were actually arguing, you would have refrained from personal abuse. Nevertheless, hopefully this thread will progress in a constructive manner in the future; I would certainly welcome any input from your friend, either regarding this thread or regarding my own work.
Best wishes,
Mark.
Danielle
in Cali
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 | 11:35 AM
My comment was to the amatures who actually believe the two ships were switched. My apologies to those who are smart enough to know the truth.
>>My comment was to the amatures who actually believe the two ships were switched. My apologies to those who are smart enough to know the truth.<<
Thank you for your apology, Danielle.
I've got to place the blame on the author of the conspiracy theory, in that people believe it because they read the author's book and uncritically acceptit. If that author presented the totality of the evidence (thereby including the facts against his theory) then his 'theory' would not hold water. As you can see from my dissertation, particularly the second section, in my view the author's academic dishonesty is telling.
I think that we can all say now that the titanic was the ship that sunk and all the people who think otherwise needs to do alot of research before they say anything. oh and rfts was me.
lets all just put this three year argument to rest.
Page
in Washington
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 | 02:24 PM
Hi What do you mean the Titanic did not sink i saw the hole MOVIE!!!
Keela
in Australia
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 | 07:04 PM
After much research and consideration, I must put forward that the Titanic did indeed sink. That there was no conspiracy . Often people looking for conspiracies have far too much time on their hands, or are becoming unhinged.
The idea that 2 ships of that magnitude, could be retrofitted and swapped in a mere 6 weeks, at that time, is most improbable. Not to mention all the people that work in the shipyards or who supposedly swapped the 2. The only way no one would have said anything was if they were dead.
The only way to keep a secret of that size would be to kill all involved. Hence, there was no conspiracy. The Olympic was scrapped in the thirties and the Titanis and the Britantic both sank. One in the Atlantic, the other in the Aegean.
mariana
in florida
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 | 11:29 AM
you all are so stupid first off all hitler died in the world warII so thats imposible that he could be alive and be hiding the titanic oh and also hitler doesnt live in las vegas and titanic did exist and sank oh and the titanic hed two sister ships the olimpic its twin sister and its other sister britannic
daniela
in florida
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 | 11:37 AM
u people r so retarded 1rst titanic sank and is not used as a private ferry by hitler because hitler is dead titanic did exsist and its the olympic not the olympia the titanic and the olympic and the brittanic were sisters not the luci watever
mariana
in florida
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 | 11:42 AM
hey all i gotta say is i saw the movie and read alot off books so yall need some history classes i know more than you and you call your self smart
truth advocate
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 | 11:59 AM
yes, it would have taken much longer than 6 weeks in order to change the name on the ship, change the plaque at the staricase, and even close-in the promenade deck (which they admitted to doing later on as a retro-fit). yeah right, it wouldn't have taken any longer even if those guys were on a government payroll!!
Explain how there were never bulkhead doors installed on ANY Olympic-class ship produced. They were installed on the Olympic, after the crash with HMS Hawke, though. Look at photos of the Olympic before it's destruction, there are no bulkhead doors that I have seen. Oh yeah, but there are some that are down there with the 'titanic'. Ask Mr. Ballard. Please explain what happened to the propellors that were buried in the mud? Can we see them, please? The boilers or any large items would not have needed to be changed, just change the inventory manifest. They had this fantastic new invention around that time, called a pen;)
I will not let bias and blind-faith prevent me from discovering the truth. its ammusing that someone would say that people believing in a certain group of facts, are 'on the verge of coming unhinged'. In reality, a true deficiency of the mind would be considered when someone is presented with scientific FACTS, and yet still will refuse to believe what has been PROVEN. (such as the world is round:) Just follow the money. How much was awarded to White Star after the disaster? I wish the world were not so sinister, but thats just how it is. Oh well, I guess its true, you cant teach and old dog new tricks. Fortunately for the sheeple, it has been so long (as in JFK), that many people are not even alive to collaberate one way or the other. WAKE UP!!!! now google: we want your soul
tyler
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 | 11:26 AM
is there any of the titanics relitives(sisters) that are still running?
Salami -- Never heard this before. Ever. I've been reading about Titanic for 14 years, a good while before the Leonardo Decapitated movie came along.
Ryan Thompson
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 | 01:12 PM
Wow. This Zack person is an anti-semetic piece of shit.
Adrian Hufton
in Ellesmere Port, Cheshire
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 | 05:24 AM
Hi, I have the documentary, which, gives very strong evidence that it was not the Titanic which sank, If nothing else it makes for a very interesting watch. I do indeed believe that it was the olympic which sank, as she was a write off,due to a heavy collision with a military ship. All the passengers were supposed to be rescued but because of tragic blunders and circumstance, this never happened.Why else would a large liner be in the middle of the Atlantic with no passengers on board, its only cargo 1500 life jackets, when there was a coal strike in the UK and the fuel was in short supply and cost a fortune. You need to watch the documantary, its very interesting.
cheers
On a personal note, I have to disagree with your views. I was one of the historians (much as I hate the word! interviewed by the Sky 1 Conspiracy team, on June 22nd 2004, although the programme was heavily edited and none of my material ended up being used in the final cut. To go right to the basic accusation, none of the evidence that Olympic was a 'write off' has stood up to expert scrutiny or independent analysis.
If you're interested in further reading, an in-depth analysis of the conspiracy theory that has stood up to independent academic scrutiny is available as a pdf. download file:
interviewed by the Sky 1 Conspiracy team, on June 22nd 2004, although the programme was heavily edited and none of my material ended up being used in the final cut. To go right to the basic accusation, none of the evidence that Olympic was a 'write off' has stood up to expert scrutiny or independent analysis.