Okay,
according to this TV show I saw, the Titanic never sank.
It's sister ship had a hole in it somewhere and so the owners disguised it
as the Titanic and sunk it for the huge insurance payments?!
Some have said that the Titanic is actually now being used as a private
ferry for Hitler!
thead: the ship was meant to sink on the return journey
Hahaha ... If only skeleton crew was meant to be there, how come so many ppl were onboard! were they on adventure ride
zoescanner
in in your mind
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 | 08:58 PM
Arg! i canna Believe you people! Callous, insensitive..i take it none of You lost family on that ship, eh? ...are You Sure though? Ever look on the ships Passenger Register? if not..you may well have and don't even know it..thus you would be belitteling your own loss. Conspiracy my arse, i lost family on that ship. The parents both survived, but my great aunt Mandy did not. She choose to stay with her BF. Their belongings are on tour with the artifacts retrieved from the Captains safe in the wreck. May something like this Never happen to Your families..and if it does, may no one ever say such things about them.
I know that this is an old topic but I think it needs to be woken up
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IF Titanic and Olympic had been switched this is what some people who believe in it think would have happened:
On the 20th September 1911 the HMS Hawke smashed into the side of Titanic's sister ship Olympic just after Olympic had left Southampton for her 5th voyage. Olympic's starboard side was so badly damaged that it took two weeks just to patch her up! so that she could go to Harland & Wolff, Belfast, UK for 6 weeks of repairs! During this time work was stopped on Titanic.
In February 1912 Olympic returned to Belfast, UK for a new propeller blade, during this time she was right next to her sister Titanic, so if they were switched it would have been done then.
(All of the above is fact)
Some people believe that they were switched because Olympic was no longer sea worthy and It is fact that they received no insurance money because Olympic was blamed for the accident.
The real Titanic would have been finished as her sister (during the 6 weeks) and would have had a long career as Olympic.
The real Olympic would have been refitted as Titanic (don't forget they were almost identical).
The plan would have been to sink Olympic and all the passengers be safely transferred to the Californian and maybe other IMM owned ships but things went terribly wrong.
So was Titanic a tragic disaster or an insurance scam gone terribly wrong?
Quote----- I thought the Titanic's sister ship was the Lusitania, which also sank.----
No, Lusitania was one of Titanic’s ‘rivals’ but she did sink (in 18 minutes!).
??? am workin on the titanic fot 35 yrs
Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 | 12:53 PM
well there is things saying that the propelers got swiched around, the olimpic had the titanic propeler witch had number 401 on if the ship that sunk has number 401 on the propeler its the olympic, but on the prints of the drawrings for the ship, the starboard wall is straight on the titanic and is a curve on the olympic so that might be a clue to what is the real ship that sunk.
TRAVIS
in PINE ILAND FLORDA
Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 | 10:17 AM
I THINK SIX PERSON IS RIGHT IF THE THER IS RIGT THAN WAT THE HELL IS ON THE OCEAN FLOR
Accipiter
in the Northern Hemisphere, unless They have lied. Member
Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 | 02:49 PM
"In February 1912 Olympic returned to Belfast, UK for a new propeller blade, during this time she was right next to her sister Titanic, so if they were switched it would have been done then."
-- posted by Tom D
Errrrr, yes. . .the two largest ships in the world, while in one of the busiest ports in the world, were swapped around without anybody noticing. After all, it's only about 90,000 tons of floating metal to shuffle about.
Also, although both ships did have the same length and beam, they also had a considerable difference in other measurements of their basic structure (not just in little minor things). This would have needed major renovations; judging from the amount of time involved in the construction of those ships, it would have taken at least a year in drydock to cut down Titanic and stretch out Olympic. Or did nobody notice during the next quarter century that the Olympic was the wrong size?
Then there's the matter of the ships' inventories, which would have included the manufacture numbers on the engines and turbines and suchlike, all of which would again require some major work to switch.
So there was never the time nor the opportunity to switch ships.
MysteriousKisses__ Member
Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 | 03:15 AM
Heyy. The Titanic Is A TOTAL Hoax =] Seriously..I Belived Up Until About A While Ago..It Was Replaced By A Badly Damaged But Nearly Repaired Ship Because The Titanic Was Not Going To Be Finished Until Days After It Was Set To Sail. They Re-painted The Name Titanic On The Side..[[Or Something Like That]]..And Let It Go..Knowing It Might Crash Or Sink Even Without An Iceberg..But Many Members Of The Crew And Passengers Were Totall Un-Aware..
Got It? =p xx
Patrick
in RI
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 | 08:20 PM
Do you people research before you speak?
Olympic did suffer severe damage due to a collision with a Navy vessel named the HMS Hawke. The damage to Olympic was catastrophic. The White Star Line took the Navy to court, but to no surprise, the HMS Hawke was found innocent, thus Olympic had 0% chance of receiving insurance money.
Therefore, in a daring attempt, White Star switched the two ships. Olympic was crawled back to Belfast, and Titanic who now assumed the name Olympic, was also brought back to Belfast to fix a propeller.
The gaping hole that the HMS Hawke punched into the original Olympic was converted into bulkhead doors, which were not part of these types of ships, but when the ship was discovered at the bottom of the ocean these bulkhead doors were visible. Titanic (the new Olympic), took over a whole week to get a propeller blade fixed, which normally only took one day. The reason it took so long to fix was due to the fact that the Belfast shipyard was attempting to make the two ships look as similar as possible.
The original Olympic actually needed a new propeller blade, so it took Titanic's (now called the Olympics) spare. This is true, because in 1985 when Robert Ballard visited Titanic (the Olympic), its propellers were buried under the mud. In 1991, a Russian crew dug up the propeller blades and noticed the number 401 was written on the blades. The original Olympic had 400 written on her blades, but do to the swap she ended up with the extra set of 401 blades. Years later Robert Ballard went to visit Titanic (the Olympic), but her propeller blades were excavated by a mystery crew and never found again (How odd).
Now, for all of those who think that White Star was willing to kill 1,500 people, you are very wrong. In actuality, White Star had sent two ships to the destination were Titanic (the Olympic) planned to founder. One ship was the California, who was manned by Captain Lord. Captain Lord was actually awarded a metal during his Navy career for saving hundreds of people from a sinking ship. The other ship remains a mystery to this day.
What was said to actually happen was...
California was in position ready to go. The other mystery ship was sailing to its location when it had been damaged by ice. During its repair the ship blacked out its lights. The two men in the crows nest were so busy looking for icebergs that Titanic (the Olympic) smashed into the mystery ship. In the olden days, the attitude was "ram them, damn them." The two ships bolted away from each other so they wouldn't get in trouble. However, Titanic (the Olympic) sailed miles away from the California. Captain Lord of the California was waiting for his signal to move in which were Red, Blue or Green rocket flares. However, Titanic had sailed so far away from the California that any rocket shot off appeared to be the color white. Also to add more confusion to the story, the mystery ship that so badly damaged Titanic (the Olympic), started shooting out its own white rockets, which confused the hell out of the California, which failed to move.
I need to end here, and continue this on another post...
Patrick
in RI
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 | 08:21 PM
Titanic (the Olympic) in an attempt to sink the ship by force, had accidentally got the ball rolling by slamming into one of its rescue vessels. The morning after Titanic (the Olympic) sank, the Carpathia, who rescued the stranded passengers, also rescued Titanic's (the Olympic's) and some other ships life boats. They actually collected more life boats than the Titanic (the Olympic) ever had, including inflatable lifeboats, which Titanic nor the Olympic ever carried.
Years later, it was discovered that at the speed Titanic (the Olympic) was allegedly sailing, a collision with an iceberg would push the Titanic (the Olympic) 20 feet over to its side and NOT even puncturing its hull. Ice is no match for steel. It was also discovered, years later at the bottom on the bottom of the ocean floor, that underneath the where the name Titanic used to be written on the ship, there were other letters. Back in those days the names were punched into the steel of the ship. Most of the the punched in letters were effected by corrosion, but the letters M and P were found. There is no M or P in the name Titanic, but both those letters do show up in the name OlyMPic.
I know this story is really outrageous, but people are cruel and some will do anything for money. However, in no way did White Star, in its insane attempt to collect insurance money, intend to end the lives of thousands of people.
The only thing that I never could research, if running into the mystery ship was an accident, then how the hell did Titanic (the Olympic) plan to sink itself? And please do not tell me they were going to use UFO's.
Patrick
in RI
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 | 08:43 PM
A few more things I'd like to add, before anyone else asks...
Captain Smith had a terrible track record. He smashed ships like they were going out of style. He mad a perfect candidate for White Star's plan.
The ice that was said to have fallen on Titanic's (the Olympic's) deck came not from an iceberg, but the collision with the other ship. The temperatures were so numbly cold, that ice formed along all the railing and cables. The less than violent shake caused by the two ships colliding caused the ice to fall from the cables and railings onto the deck.
There was also one more ship that surrounded Titanic (the Olympic) as she sank. It was a fishing boat. However, back in the day, many large linears ran over fishing boats leaving it's crew for dead, never stopping to ensure that the ship made good timing.
I apologize for any misspellings.
Phoxie
in UK
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 | 09:34 AM
You guys need to read the book, "Titanic the ship that never sank" by Robin Gardiner. The switch between the Titanic and Olympic was carried out whilst both ships were in dry dock. There are a number of clues that confirm this theory. The main visual clue for me is where the name plate of on the wreck is pealing away the letters M and P can be seen, i.e. from Olympic. The biggest clues though are in the survivor accounts. Anyway I won't spoil the read. Enjoy it.
Nicole
in somewere in lala land...yet the knowledge is here
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 | 01:28 PM
omg, ever thought of this->the 'M' was actually the 'N' and 'I' and the 'P' could have been the 'C'? jeez. and that wasnt good steel, hello, this is 1912! and the crew in the crows nest would have seen the 'mystery ship', because there was no LIGHT POLLUTION to make the star's and the moon's light->they would have seen that, and if they didnt see it, how come the steering-thing that they took a picture of (underwater) was at 'hard a starboard'?? also, there is proof that it was seversl small gashes along the side of the hull, and so she got those from a ship?? wtf?? Also-> consider this. a vesel (i forget wat it was..i think it was european..but dont quote me on that) saw an iceberg (this was a couple days after the titanic sank) that had red paint witch had 'the appeance of being scraped off from a vessel'. explain THAT one. O, and one more point- there are pictures of the titanics boilers, and one of the boilers was the first picture taken of the titanic(when she was under water)that told the team that was looking for her that they found the titanic. So explain THAT, if your so stuck on the theroy that that wasnt the titanic, and o, if the olympic swapped places with the titanic, that the old olympic would now be the new titanic, so the titanic really did sink. so there
Annonymous
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 | 12:05 PM
So tell me little Miss.N00b, how does one boiler prove that it is not the Olympic? Did the workers Paint 'Titanic's Boiler' on each 29 of them?
And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't both the Olympic and Titanic have Red Paint under the waterline? So what in the name of Randamness, does that prove?!
Oh, and the Crew DID see the mystety Ship, I do know of the Califournion, but this second Ship has me stumped.
Mark Chirnside
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 | 08:35 AM
I realise this is a detailed thread, so I thought I'd post a link to my dissertation (in pdf) analysing this theory for anyone interested:
well it was supposed to be switched when a few weeks b4 titanic set sail !! so it could have been switched then!!! so no the passengers would have been titanics not the Olympic's !! and as far as hitler having it ! thats just mad !! its at the bottom of the ocean init!! have ya not seent the doc's on tv !!
neil everson
in uk
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 | 02:12 AM
there was three ! Olympic,titanic and the britanic ..in that order
neil everson
in uk
Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 | 02:17 AM
as they wasnt gonna get paid 4 the Olympic and the only way they could get there money bck was to say it was titanic!! makes alot of sence to me and just changing the name dont mean it was the titanic it means they had an alterea motive !! that also makes sence to me!! and to the one who said it was too BIG to float !! lol you made me laught with that one fella!! good one!lmao
