Now you can get more energy from a patch! I especially like the way that
they "believe" that it works. It is also based on years of research from
many fields. While the research may be valid, I'm not sure that their
results were intended to be used with a "patent pending blend of water,
oxygen, amino acids and organics applied to a polyester fabric and sealed
within a polymer shell".
I get the impression the LifeWave people think this will be a push-over.
Captain Al
in Alberta, Canada Member
Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 | 08:13 AM
Spenblu says:
"Like I said before, I don't sell them, haven't tried them, but I cannot honestly call it a hoax until I have solid evidence."
Are you willing to believe any claim until it is proven false? I think you have it all backwards.
It doesn't take a very precise BS meter to judge LifeWave Energy Patches. As a matter of fact, I am using LifeWave to calibrate my meter for full-scale deflection.
I've emailed James Randi to alert him to this forum topic. Gee, I sure hope that my goading the LifeWave people into applying for Mr. Randi's million dollar prize was the reason they seem like they're going to do it. That would make me VERY proud.
Physicians.com seems to be a site that sells those stupid LifeWave thingies. Nice deceptive web site name there, huh?
Pat
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 | 05:11 AM
Yes, these patches seem to good to be true. I was very skeptical, but like to keep an open mind. I have a Master's Degree in Human Nutition with an emphasis in biochemistry and I am a Registered Dietitian. Being in the Nutrition field, which is full of schemes & hoaxes, my motto used to be "show me the science"
I have tried the patches, mostly for my own personal use. I am 48 years old & run, ski, mountain bike. My husband & friends are younger than I am & I often have a hard time keeping up. We are going to Fruita, CO on a 3 day Mt bike trip with 2 other (younger & fitter couples) in 3 weeks.
I tried the patches while lifting weights & did see a remarkable increase in reps. I did 14 reps w/o patches & 24 with them! I took the patches off & could only do 11. Yesterday went biking for 3 hours. It is hard to say if I had more stamina, but I have OBSOLUTELY no soreness in my legs today! To me this is remarkable! I tell you, the best part is I WANT to exercise. With these patches, my motto can now be "No Pain, More Gain"
I'm convinced they at least decrease post exercise fatigue & soreness. Without a doubt, I will be taking them to Fruita in 3 weeks
Pat
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 | 05:16 AM
Oooops! that's ABSOLUTELY, not Obsolutely folks!
Captain Al
in Alberta, Canada Member
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 | 07:03 AM
Pat,
Since you have a "Master's Degree in Human Nutition [sic] with an emphasis in biochemistry", maybe you can fill us in on LifeWave's claim about the, up til now unknown, magnetic field of the human body and how the patches frequency modulate that field to get their miraculous results.
"Yes, these patches seem to [sic] good to be true. I was very skeptical, but like to keep an open mind. I have a Master's Degree in Human Nutition with an emphasis in biochemistry and I am a Registered Dietitian. Being in the Nutrition field, which is full of schemes & hoaxes, my motto used to be "show me the science"
Since you're so into "science," I'm curious--have you ever heard of the "placebo effect" and "double-blind testing?"
I've asked these questions before but I can't seem to get an answer: what is "vibrating" in the patches and what frequency or frequencies is it vibrating on? This should be easily testable, yes? Why can't any of the supporters of these things, who are so ready to tell you about the "vibrations" answer these extremely basic questions??
Pat, what institution gave you your degrees? Is it a real "bricks and mortar" place or mail-order?
Also, do you have any financial interest in the LifeWave patches? That, of course, includes selling them.
David B.
in Reading, England.
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 | 03:10 PM
To everyone with an 'open mind' about these patches I say...
*Save your money*
I recently went on my isometric exercise machine while after just *thinking* about these patches and did 35 reps at a resistance of 80 instead of the usual 25! This is honest to goodness true!
These 'vibrations' are so powerful that just 'tuning yourself in' to them is enough. Even if, like me, you think they are total hooey!
This is good news for the world, but bad news for LifeWave(TM) as this 'action at a distance' totally negates the need to buy this snake-oil in the first place!
Waver
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 | 03:21 PM
Hahaha, very funny. I was given my first set of patches by my son, who by the way has a degree in Nuclear Engeneering and Physics from a large public university. He is now going for his masters. He had an open enough mind to try them and to tell me about them even though I "only" have an MBA and my law degree from a major university.
I have had at least 25 people that gotten patches from me tell me stories you wouldn't believe about what they have done for them.
David B.
in Reading, England.
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 | 03:34 PM
Funny why?
I'm absolutely serious. After about twenty minutes reading about the patches on this forum my reps went up!
I'm sure your son is very smart - and you are too [there must be *some* smart MBAs, I just wish they worked for my company instead of the drips we got*] - but I'm getting the same benefits and it ain't costing me a penny!
Guess I'm smarter!
(*) Sorry for the MBA joke, as I'm in a technical role 'anti-management' humour is in my job description.
"I have had at least 25 people that gotten patches from me tell me stories you wouldn't believe about what they have done for them."
You got THAT right! I wouldn't believe them.
Captain Al
in Alberta, Canada Member
Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 | 07:20 PM
With all the wallpaper being flashed around this thread, SOMEBODY should be able to tell us exactly how these things "work". Just when was this magnetic field in the human body discovered? And how do the patches interact with it?
How many of these believers have are making plans to go back to university to re-learn everything from the ground up because of the revolutionary discoveries by LifeWave?
I think it's funny that even these people will their (alleged) education are buying into this. Do you REALLY think that even Nuclear Physicists (sp?) and Nutrition Professors are infallable??
They are obviously so much better than the rest of us that because they endorse the (alleged) product, we should all pick up a few.
I just have to say the product works, don't ask me how i use the product i sell them, anyone that i have shared them with have had positive results.
I have also had the opportunity to view a demonstration with a spectra vision machine with the patches on and off, there was a definite increase in energy when the patches were placed on the people, maybe do some research on a spectravison and get your hands on one and see for your self, the results!! Then you will see the impact this amazing product has on the human body!!
