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Fred
in na gadda da vida
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 | 02:45 PM
Making a fortune by marketing a worthless product is sociopathic.
But then, making a claim of benevolence by donating the worthless product to be used as an alternative to the desperate need in Haiti for basic medical supplies?! That qualifies as psychopathic.
In Haiti there is one MD for every 7,000 citizens - the per capita income is $1,300 (2008). So even if a sick Haitian believes to be feeling better after a few free patches, the cost for a year's supply will exceed the Haitian's annual per capita income. |
Joel
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 | 04:24 PM
David Schmidt is probably patting himself on the back, saying, "The people of Haiti are hungry, so I gave them Lifewave hunger suppressing patches. What could be more humanitarian than that?"
David Schmidt is one sick, sick bastard. |
HOHOHOHO
in FRANCE
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 | 05:05 PM
Il n'y a pas que la faim pour Haiti.
La souffrance physique est aussi une des choses les plus insupportables pour tout etre vivants.
Quand tu pourras faire la preuve que les patchs ICEWAVE (scientifiquement et non avec des pseudo explications na |
EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 | 06:51 PM
Bob,
As you know, this is not the first time Schmidt has used tragic events to attempt to look good.
I wonder if he claims these "gifts" of charity on his taxes?
Mmmm
Dave |
Fred in na gadda da vida
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 01:51 PM
Off Topic: The thread seems to be here still here OK with the software upgrade.
Apparently because this thread was started under the now "double obsolete" software, one must now register to even see the thread at all - not just to comment.
So anyone who was a non-registrant (like me) will assume the thread died.
Ironic that it is the very thing that made this thread so interesting, should now be the same reason it is obsolete. No more will folks from all over the world stumble on to the thread via MOH's high Google ranking, along with ultra easy, no registration posting.
Besides, I don't think the MOH Curator ever intended the site to be a resource for the important issue of medical scams - in fact the word "scam" is not found anywhere at title page.
I think whatever importance this thread had to inform was an emergent property of a web site created for fun and entertainment. |
Fred in na gadda da vida
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 01:51 PM
Off Topic: The thread seems to be here still here OK with the software upgrade.
Apparently because this thread was started under the now "double obsolete" software, one must now register to even see the thread at all - not just to comment.
So anyone who was a non-registrant (like me) will assume the thread died.
Ironic that it is the very thing that made this thread so interesting, should now be the same reason it is obsolete. No more will folks from all over the world stumble on to the thread via MOH's high Google ranking, along with ultra easy, no registration posting.
Besides, I don't think the MOH Curator ever intended the site to be a resource for the important issue of medical scams - in fact the word "scam" is not found anywhere at title page.
I think whatever importance this thread had to inform was an emergent property of a web site created for fun and entertainment. |
Fred in na gadda da vida
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 02:05 PM
Also: apparently anyone who actually was a registerd poster on this thread, but ONLY posted here in the old, old software, was acidentaly dumped in an automated process to clear suspected spammers. |
WWSN
Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 02:35 PM
So is this message board/forum still functional?
Or can we at least post a url to a new board for interested people to participate in?
And will this forum remain accessible to both Google and researchers?
Bob
WWSN |
Fred in na gadda da vida
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 02:42 PM
Bob I think the deal is to even view the thread you have to register first. |
Fred in na gadda da vida
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 02:59 PM
On the other hand, if you were kin to the dwarf eaten by the hippo, you wouldn't find MOH entertaining. |
Fred in na gadda da vida
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 03:14 PM
My understanding: Even if we didn't see the spam, the problem was so many bots tried to attack the old software just because it was old, that the bots created serious bandwidth problems just by trying the vulnerable obsolete software. So the old thread here has to be hidden behind registration, |
Joel
Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 07:02 PM
If that is the case, then this old forum will not fulfill the function of being some place where people who are searching for solid information and reasoning about Lifewave patches can find it, which is the reason that I have dug up facts regarding Lifewave and posted them here these past years.
I suggest that we start a new thread with an introductory comment that says something like, "Although there is a treasure trove of history and facts regarding Lifewave and the people behind Lifewave at the old forum at the following link ______, for technical reasons people now have to register as a MOH user before they can see it. We've continued the discussion, and re-posted some of that information, here." |
WWSN
Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 07:46 PM
I also suggest that we find a more reliable forum than the "Hoax" message board. I'll look around - anyone who has suggestions please post links.
Although they blamed the selective deletion of my WWSN posts on "overzealous mods", their explanation and apology makes no sense. I have never posted anything remotely resembling spam and I always posted as a registered member. My posts were always thorough, referenced, documented and professional. There was nothing "spam" about them - EVER. And it happened at least twice. How many "overzealous mods" are working on this forum?
Comments such as:
"This sounds exactly like something a proponent of scams or conspiracies might say. “Something has happened that I don’t agree with. It’s a conspiracy!”
Alex doesn’t work for you. It’s not Alex’s job to provide you backups of the forum. If you want backups so bad then you make some. It turns out to be surprisingly easy when you stop whining long enough to look for them."
This sounds more like something that David Schmidt - or one of his lawyers - would say. This guy is not interested in the years of effort, work and non-profit research people have contributed to the Hoax forums. He'd rather attack me personally and paint me as a conspiracy nut who won't stop "whining". LOL!
I no longer trust the people associated with the Hoax forum and recommend that we take our discussions and work elsewhere. They certainly won't miss us.
Bob
WWSN
www.lifewavescam.com |
Fred in na gadda da vida
Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 09:33 PM
Actually the "other" MOH thread comes up on google, so that could take this thread's place without having to register on MOH to view.
I"m not sure what to say about bob being pissed again, thought bob apologized for being pissy first on the new thread.
There are lots of mods and I'm sure many enjoy engaging in pissing contests, but the curator has provided all this and I think deserves praise.
MOH conspiracy is just plain silly.
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Joel
Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 10:02 PM
I'm appreciative of Alex and the mods for providing this forum/public service. Of course, the MOH is theirs and they can do with it whatever they please including deleting old threads or shutting MOH down at any time of their choosing, or not bothering to do all the work necessary to make old software compatible with new software (must be a pain in the backside, I'm sure). So all of the old information remains available only at their pleasure, discretion, continuing work, and appropriate business considerations for them.
If anyone knows of a better venue for this thread, I'm open. Absent a better suggestion, then we should probably just continue the discussion on the new Lifewave thread http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/forums/viewthread/8237/P77 and repost the greatest hits from this forum. |
WWSN
Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 10:12 PM
I agree and I never said anything about any "conspiracy". This was the suggestion of one of the mods, who said:
"This sounds exactly like something a proponent of scams or conspiracies might say. “Something has happened that I don’t agree with. It’s a conspiracy!”
Alex doesn’t work for you. It’s not Alex’s job to provide you backups of the forum. If you want backups so bad then you make some. It turns out to be surprisingly easy when you stop whining long enough to look for them."
The WWSN is truly a non-profit web site and has been since 1998. We have no Google ads (while the MOH site DOES).
I am not pissed at all - I've gone up against some of the biggest MLM scammers on the Internet and beat them all (although I'm still working on David Schmidt...). I'm just saying that based on the actions of numerous "overzealous mods" and the condescending and insulting tone of the guy quoted above, I recommend that interested parties find another venue to discuss the Lifewave nanotechnology patch scam.
Of course, you good folks are free to post anywhere you like and I wish you all well.
Bob
WWSN
www.LifewaveScam.com |
Fred in na gadda da vida
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 10:40 PM
Somehow, I'm kinda gonna miss Frenchy. |
Fred in na gadda da vida
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 | 10:49 PM
The norwegian mom I won't miss at all, she kinda creeped me out with the whole mother/son placebo deal. |
Alex
in San Diego
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 | 02:45 PM
Hi, It's Alex (the curator). Just wanted to pop in and, first of all, apologize for this forum disappearing for a few weeks. Trust me, it wasn't intentional. What I thought was going to be a simple process of upgrading to the new version of the software that runs this site (Expression Engine) turned out to be very difficult. Frankly, I think the difficulty was because the new version of the software wasn't tested very well for quality control and was full of bugs.
The bugs were apparently compounded by the size of this site. What wouldn't have been problems for smaller sites became major issues for this site, and kept causing the server to crash.
In particular, there was an issue with the comment form. The new software couldn't handle the constant submission of comments by spam bots. Again, this was made worse by the large number of comment forms all across my site.
The spam bots weren't filling out the captcha form, so the comments wouldn't appear on the site, but nevertheless queries to the database would stack up and eventually the server would lock, making the site inaccessible. So I had to make the comment forms invisible to the spam bots by only allowing registered members to see them. It was either that or wait for the software people to fix their software, and who knows how long that would take.
I thought about downgrading to the old version of the software, but that wasn't an option either because I didn't have an old copy to install. So I was kind of stuck.
Anyway, that's why everyone now has to register to submit comments.
However, no one has to register to see this forum. All the threads are still viewable by anyone.
So anyway, my apologies again for the disruption. Hopefully everything should settle back to normal now. |
Fred in na gadda da vida
Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 | 03:40 PM
" All the threads are still viewable by anyone."
:::Miss Litella Voice::: Well, that's very different - nevermind.
Thank you Alex. It seems this thread became availiable again to me at the exact time I was registered, so I figured you had to be signed up to view. |
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