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LifeWave Energy Patches
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Posted By:
Fawkes
Feb 24, 2005
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Now you can get more energy from a patch! I especially like the way that
they "believe" that it works. It is also based on years of research from
many fields. While the research may be valid, I'm not sure that their
results were intended to be used with a "patent pending blend of water,
oxygen, amino acids and organics applied to a polyester fabric and sealed
within a polymer shell".
http://www.contactplus.com/lifewave.htm
We can finally have our super-soldiers now!
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anon
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 | 05:51 PM
lol @ Cranky Media Guy...
Im sure I speak on behalf of many other people in saying I agree with your comments on our Lifewave Loving friend AbletoFly! |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 | 05:55 PM
If anyone has any doubt about the amazing ability of the placebo effect to separate people from their hard-earned cash, take a look at this:
http://www.ilikejam.dsl.pipex.com/audiophile.htm
(be sure to note the outrageous prices charged for this snake oil)
The human mind has a seemingly unlimited ability to BS itself. |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 | 07:27 PM
Able to fly,
I have never met David Schmidt but if he had any scientific credentials I'm sure they would be billboarded front and center on his website. WWSN has been trying to get a look at his CV for some time now with no success. Schmidt claims to have attended a certain university. WWSN found out the only education he got there was a two year business course. Hardly the recommended educational background for developing leading edge technology. One can only conclude Mr Schmidt doesn't want his CV made public because there is nothing on it that would convince people he was capable of developing an energy patch.
So what if many people believe there is a magnetic field around the human body. That doesn't make it true. Are those "people" involved in medical research? If there really is one, it would be easy to verify and conventional medical science would know all about it.
Think about it. If the human body could be manipulated via it's own magnetic field, we would all flop around like rag dolls since the environment is full of radio signals. They come from broadcast transmitters, computers, power lines and from space. Even electrical noise would kill us since it contains an infinite number of random frequencies, some of which would most certainly be at the same frequency supposedly used by Lifewave patches. The fact a "human magnetic field" is dismissed by the vast majority of medical practitioners is a good indication it does not exist. Deal with it.
Glucose cannot be an FM radio transmitter no matter what it is mixed with. When Lifewave submitted their patches for some testing, they had to tell the testers what was in them. They said one contained glucose and the other glycerine. Nothing else. So how do they transmit?
I stand by my statement Lifewave used deceptive practices in testing. They used the names of universities where their "testing" was done. No mention was made the testing was being done without their knowledge and support. It took the threat of legal action to get those references removed. Lifewave also used quotes from a recognized expert in the field of nanotechnology. Once again, there was a threat of legal action against Lifewave when that person found out. These were deliberate, fraudulant attempts to lend credibility to Lifewave. If their product really does what they claim, why do they resort these unprofessional practices? |
Able to fly
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 | 09:36 PM
For more information on biomagnetic fields see:
http://www.drpawluk.com/biomagnetic_fields.htm
A little about Dr Pawluk:
William Pawluk, M.D., M.Sc.Summary
Board Certified in Family Practice in Canada and the United States
Former Assistant Professor, Johns Hopkins University: School of Medicine and Hygiene and Public Health, Department of Health Policy and Management
Degrees
Master of Science (MSc), Clinical Epidemiology and Health Care Evaluation, McMaster University (equivalent to a Master of Public Health degree), Ontario, Canada
Medical Degree (MD), University of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Bachelor of Science (BSc), Medical Sciences, University of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Postgraduate Education
1973-1976 Masters Degree, "Clinical Epidemiology and Health Care Evaluation," McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Postgraduate Medical/Clinical Training
Extension Program in Medical Acupuncture for physicians, UCLA
Teaching/Research
Fellowship, Department of Family Medicine, McMaster University,
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Certification
American Board of Family Practice
American Board of Family Practice
College of Family Physicians of Canada
Academic Positions
Assistant Professor, Family Medicine, Director Of Clinical Programs Division of Complementary Medicine, Kernan Hospital
Assistant Professor, Department of Health Policy and Management, Johns Hopkins University, School of Health and Public Hygiene, Baltimore, Maryland
Assistant Professor, part-time, Department of Medicine, Division of General Medicine, Johns Hopkins University, School of Medicine, Baltimore, Maryland
Associate Clinical Professor, Department of Family Medicine, University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey, Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, Camden, New Jersey
Assistant Clinical Professor, Department of Family Medicine, University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey, Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, Camden, New Jersey
Senior Instructor, Department of Family Medicine, Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio
Lecturer, Department of Family Medicine, McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Non-Academic Professional Experience
President, Advanced Magnetic Research Institute of the Delaware Valley, L.L.C.
Vice President for Medical Affairs, Rush Prudential Health Plans
Vice President for Medical Affairs, Prudential Health Care Plan of the Mid-Atlantic, Baltimore, Maryland
Instructor in Stress Reduction
Vice President for Medical Affairs, Johns Hopkins Health Plan, Baltimore
Medical Director, Member of Health Care Plan of New Jersey (HCP)
Family Physician, Health Care Plan of NJ/HIP- NJ
Professional Associations
American Academy of Family Physicians
Bioelectromagnetic Society (BEMS)
State Medical Society
American Academy of Medical Acupuncture
Maryland Society for Medical Acupuncture
North American Academy of Magnetic Therapy
- Vice President
- IRB member
- Scientific Committee
- Annual Program Chair
Johns Hopkins Medical & Chirurgical Association
Who |
Able to fly
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 | 10:08 PM
More references to scientific recognition of Human Magnetic Fields:
"Taking 1 fT as the nominal resolution of the SQUID, it is capable of detecting changes in magnetic fields in the human body:
Threshold for SQUID: 1 fT
Magnetic field of heart: 50,000 fT
Magnetic field of brain: a few fT
The SQUID has been used to measure and localize seizure activity in the human brain. Resolutions on the order of 30 fT have been achieved with the YBaCO type high-temperature superconductors with which the SQUID can be operated at liquid nitrogen temperature. "
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/solids/squid2.html |
Able to fly
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 | 10:25 PM
magnetoencephalographic (MEG) technology
applications in neurosurgery:
http://www.neurosurgery-online.com/pt/re/neurosurg/abstract.00006123-199705000-00011.htm;jsessionid=Dw29bSwCbeJ0ObI1Z9lfuuuPQcHCoRrP1e2BiuM1ZWvshCNDPBBG!-265222359!-949856145!9001!-1 |
Able to fly
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 | 10:38 PM
The information I am posting is in response to Captail Al saying "So what if many people believe there is a magnetic field around the human body. That doesn't make it true. Are those "people" involved in medical research? If there really is one, it would be easy to verify and conventional medical science would know all about it."
In summary my response is: some are and it does. |
Able to fly
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 | 10:46 PM
Captain Al also said:
"If the human body could be manipulated via it's own magnetic field, we would all flop around like rag dolls since the environment is full of radio signals."
Are you seriously not aware that radio signals etc are having both positive and negative effects on the human body? |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 | 11:07 PM
Able to fly,
I hope your next post will explain what all this quackery means. Or don't you know?
"Are you seriously not aware that radio signals etc are having both positive and negative effects on the human body?"
Now I can't wait to hear what those effects are! |
Razela
in Chicago, IL
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 | 12:24 AM
I'm sorry, but one thing I hate more then anything are people using the word "skeptic" as a negative connotation.
Being a skeptic doesn't mean we don't believe in anything, or even that we always demand proof, just that we are believe that there is a lot of BS out there and want to have an educated understanding of the world.
In the case of lifewave patches, you've already heard the "skeptics" say that they would be happy if the patches worked the way David Schmidt says they work, but the evidence is very much in favor on the side of the placebo affect.
On one side, you have that the patches don't actually do anything except administer the placebo effect and were started by a man intent on scamming innocent people out of their money.
On the other side you have a person with no scientific experience inventing an amazing new nanotechnology patch that can use science that has never been heard of before. This person then sells the patch in an MLM company instead of publishing it in a scientific journal and receiving the Nobel Prize and other like appreciation and respect from the world. This person also has no money in order to conduct full-scale tests, yet apparently has enough money to even create this amazing new technology in the first place. He also sells this product, which produces dramatic medical changes in the patient, yet is still untested as to its safety. He then applies for a patent (after he starts selling it) which doesn't even make mention of the technology he uses.
The list goes on and on. Sure it is vaguely possible that scenario two is true. Maybe David Schmidt really is just a scientific genius with absolutely 0 business sense (which is surprising since he got a two year degree in business and no degrees in any form of science). Or it could just be the placebo affect. Occam's razor my darling.
Sorry if we tend to doubt your authenticity Able to Fly, but it is rather hard to believe that anyone could seriously consider scenario two as a possible truth when scenario one explains the situation perfectly without all the |
Able to fly
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 | 01:20 AM
Captain Al said:
"I hope your next post will explain what all this quackery means."
Are you now suggesting that neuroscience is "quackery" or are you asking if I understand any of this?
If the later, to some degree I do understand it because I studied Introductory Neuropsychology at the Australian National University back in 1986. I recognise that there have been many advances since then and I haven't kept up to date with it or taken my studies any further in that field. I know enough to understand most of what they are saying. I assumed most of you who are on here have some understanding of science because of all the requests for scientific proof. Are you asking me to explain it all to you or were you suggesting that I wouldn't understand any of it?
Just because you would like to think that anybody who thinks that the patches could work must be stupid, doesn't mean that they are stupid. You talk about what scientists know and what scientists believe and accept as though you are an authority on this subject. Scientists often clash in their beliefs. You can manipulate a set of statistics to prove both sides to many arguments. (And yes, I studied statistics and mathematics at ANU in 1983). Blowing my own trumpet is not something I normally do, but I am sick of the suggestion that I must be stupid to believe that the patches could be anything more than a placebo. I have never tested lower than the 130s in an IQ test yet I believe anything is possible. We can prove what is to some degree, and we can prove what we don't know, but it is a lot harder to prove what isn't and that is what makes science so fascinating. |
Able to fly
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 | 01:51 AM
Razela said:
"Maybe David Schmidt really is just a scientific genius with absolutely 0 business sense (which is surprising since he got a two year degree in business and no degrees in any form of science)."
Where is the evidence that David Schmidt has "no degrees in any form of science" or that he has a "two year degree in business"? I was of the impression that no-one on this forum had seen a copy of his CV. Just because someone by that name studied business doesn't mean it was him. Just as the following CV for a David Schmidt probably belongs to someone else: http://www.clarkson.edu/fluidflow/djs/djs_resume.html |
EDHUK
Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 | 10:49 AM
http://www.centurion-systems.com/magnethum.htm
"The body is only insignificantly diamagnetic and paramagnetic; basically, it is neutral."
Bummer.
They didn't use the right instruments perhaps?
LifeWaveSpeak:
"magnetism"
"The "power" to withdraw large amounts of cash from a bank account on a regular autoship basis". |
EDHUK
Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 | 10:56 AM
http://interactive2.usgs.gov/faq/list_faq_by_category/get_answer.asp?id=486
"The primary effects of geomagnetism are on the health of electrically-based technological systems that are critically important to the modern civilization of humanity, not the humans themselves."
A thousand articles, a thousand opinions.
David Schmidt continues to rake in the lolly!
Still nothing of interest from the BIG CONference in September.
Coming soon, no doubt.
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Rolan Doobies
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 | 08:10 PM
fix the page, the text is too long. |
Rolan Doobies
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 | 10:49 PM
No, the formatting is jacked. I dont think its my computer because only this page is messed up. text runs off to far to the right side. |
hcmomof4
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 | 11:34 PM
Yeah, it's happened on a couple pages for me. I've always assumed it was my computer, since screwed up is a normal state for it. |
Announcer
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 | 01:59 PM
http://www.worldwidescamexposed.com/ |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 | 02:14 PM
I noticed the person(s) behind worldwidescamexposed.com was too cowardly to put their name on it. |
Announcer
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 | 02:18 PM
There is a contact link. Perhaps they will respond to you.
Any comments on the content? |
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