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LifeWave Energy Patches
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Posted By:
Fawkes
Feb 24, 2005
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Now you can get more energy from a patch! I especially like the way that
they "believe" that it works. It is also based on years of research from
many fields. While the research may be valid, I'm not sure that their
results were intended to be used with a "patent pending blend of water,
oxygen, amino acids and organics applied to a polyester fabric and sealed
within a polymer shell".
http://www.contactplus.com/lifewave.htm
We can finally have our super-soldiers now!
Category: Health; Replies: 5899
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human being?
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 | 11:04 PM
Cranky-"Does that answer the question?"
Yes, yes it does my dear watson.
ANON-"Shill", seriously... That's all I have to say about that.
Anyway Cranky, what is your stand on IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTs entry? Do you have some kind of an explanation for that?hhmm? |
Able to fly
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 | 09:24 AM
WWSN1 could you please help me out here.
I have tried to find information on Mark Kline and MK Systems inc. but all I could find was this:
www.mksystems.com who "develops and manufactures specialized instrumentation in partnership with companies in the pulp and paper industry."
I guess there must be another MK Systems Inc.
So then I looked for info on the attorneys for Mark Kline and MK Systems Inc and I was so impressed with the biography of Mr. Vaughn-Flam who signed on behalf of the attorneys that I was beginning to wonder why he would be representing someone like Mark Kline and MK Systems who I can't find any information on.
"ERIC VAUGHN-FLAM BIOGRAPHY
ERIC VAUGHN-FLAM is currently Senior Litigation Partner to the firm Rubin Bailin Ortoli Mayer & Baker LLP, located at 405 Park Avenue, 15th floor, New York NY 10022.
For twenty years, Mr. Vaughn-Flam has specialized in entertainment, and has broad experience in copyright and trademark, music, film, television, electronic distribution, licensing, and multi-media.
Mr. Vaughn-Flam is currently lead counsel in the well publicized lawsuit Dallal v NY Times. Mr. Vaughn-Flam has distinguished himself in recent years as lead counsel in the $150 million management dispute of Hootie and the Blowfish v. Newman. Mr. Vaughn-Flam has previously served as President of Cook Records.
A partial listing of Mr. Vaughn-flam |
Coast to Coast
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 | 10:02 AM
Announcer: I see no mention of Livewave on the coast to coast site. the upcoming programs only shows to Nov 5th. You said Haltiwanger is there on the 6th.
Do you have a secret link to the site? |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 | 10:58 AM
IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT said:
"Amazing what you can have if you just ask."
And ask, and ask, and ask. We have been asking for 9 months now. You said this study was done in June, 2003. Why are we just hearing about it now? You also make no mention of the "studies" done at Moorehouse College and Troy University. Oh that's right, those institutions threatened Lifewave with legal action for using their names and conducting studies without authorization.
"The principal investigator of this study was Coach Richard Shaughnessy, strength and conditioning coach."
Who the hell is Richard Shaughnessy? Strength and conditioning coach? How does that qualifiy him to conduct scientific research? Maybe you left out the "Dr." before his name and the "PhD" after.
Where did he do this "study"? There is no mention of any university. Is that because Lifewave no longer publicizes the names of these places because it was once again done without their knowledge?
"The Placebo group was given a set of patches filled with water; this group was unaware as to whether or not the patches were real or water filled."
According to the pictures I've seen, the "real" patches are clear and you can see the material inside. This material is either tan or white depending on what side of the body it is to be placed. How can you fill them with water and still have different colors? Don't say they used food coloring because colored water has a different texture than glycerin or glucose.
"It is postulated by the manufacturer that the LifeWave |
Charybdis
in Hell
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 | 01:33 PM
Is there a million dollars on offer for finding this information? Who is offering it? Why? - IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT
Cranky Media Guy can you please stop swinging this forum back to the topic of Randi and JREF. This is a forum about Lifewave. - Able to fly
Since the same IP was used by both of these posters, and since they posted within minutes of each other, even alternating, I'm assuming they are the same poster. In the future, be advised that posting under different usernames to support your position is frowned upon. If there turns out to be a valid reason for this shared IP I apologize in advance. I am merely trying to keep this place as honest as possible. |
EDHUK
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 | 02:18 PM
WWSN1
Interesting reading as always.
26 "...Defendants had actual and/or
constructive knowledge that it was illegal to sell the Products to the public without statutory clearances from the Food and Drug Administration."
27 . During all relevant times ,Defendant failed or refused to conduct clinical testing as set forth in 21 Code of Federal Regulations |
hcmomof4
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 | 05:04 PM
Aw, c'mon WWSN1...
I know (because it LifeWavers have said so) that there is no need for FDA approval for these patches, since they contain no active ingredients, and do nothing (transdermally). And I've seen posted several times that the testing hasn't been done because after all, David Schmidt has a right to get as much money as he can before he's forced to pay for the tests to prove that the patches do nothing.
I was sort of curious about the "Exclusively Agreement" part. Was David Schmidt really dumb enough to tell someone that they got to market and sell this life-changing, earth-shaking, never-seen-anything-like-it, everyone-will-want-some brand-new nanotech product exclusively?. Perhaps he thought Mark Kline wouldn't notice that Mark wasn't the one at the top of the pyramid. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 | 05:22 PM
I'm trying to find where someone talked about the patches being transparent, allowing you to see the stuff inside them. I don't see the posting so I'll just respond generically.
I had some patches sent to me. My wife used them and felt NO effect at all. I subsequently sent those patches on to James Randi and they are the ones you can see a photo of on his webpage from a few months back.
Yeah, it looks as if you can see inside them. To be honest, the brown one looked to me as if it had something brown-colored on the inside surface of the "dome" of the patch. It didn't look to me like a liquid inside the dome. I could be wrong about that; that's just how it looked to me. With the white one, it looked to me as if you were seeing through the "dome" to the top of the bottom layer. In other words, it looked to me as if there was nothing inside the white one. Again, I'll say that I could be wrong about this; this is my recollection, though.
You can go to Randi's site (randi.org) and see the actual patches my wife wore to determine this for yourself. |
Able to fly
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 | 06:05 PM
Charybdis in Hell
"If there turns out to be a valid reason for this shared IP I apologize in advance. I am merely trying to keep this place as honest as possible."
IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT is my friend who introduced me to Lifewave. I showed my friend the forum and to my great embarrassment (since I had been suggestiing a petition) my friend jumped on my computer and showed me the info I was looking for. I suggested that my friend respond personally.
However I am told that I suffer from "multiple personalities". In which case you may find me on here using more than one name argueing with myself. Should this happen I apologise in advance. |
hcmomof4
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 | 11:32 PM
Sounds reasonable... |
Rolan Doobies
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 | 12:06 AM
Busted |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 | 01:39 AM
Able to fly said:
"However I am told that I suffer from "multiple personalities". In which case you may find me on here using more than one name argueing with myself. Should this happen I apologise in advance."
Uh, isn't there a LifeWave patch to cure that?
Is it me or have we all fallen through the rabbit hole? Now we have to debate Sybil?
Maybe that was the problem with the "proof" of the patches' effectiveness; maybe Morehouse U. has an evil twin that actually DID endorse them.
And I'M the one living in a fantasy world?? |
Mr. James Randi
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 | 08:43 AM
To the people of this Form:
We have just finished a study in which the patches have clearly made an improvement (increased energy) on our subjects. (I can not release the names of those subjects).
The information that Is This What You Want gave out was in correct nature of the abilities that life patches give out.
However, Since Mr. Schmidt didn't take the challenge I have no money to process to him. So this study was quite a thrill, since I don't have to pay him nor do I have to reward him of any kind. The release of this information on my website should be up in a few days. However, the information being released to you now is only a tiny fraction of what we found. This information will not be released until further notice.
I would like to thank the following: Cranky Media Guy, EDHUK, Captain Al, Charybdis, and also ABLE TO FLY. For she has debated a hard fought battle, despite the all a round nonsense.
I bid all of you a good day.
Sincerely,
James Randi.
Please visit www.jamesrandi.org
Thank you. |
Kenneth McPherson
in Aberdeen
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 | 09:25 AM
Hmmm, is this hornets nest or is someone trying to prove that truth is what we think,say or do?
Lot's of ideas being expounded across media, politics and religion and whatever that has to do with LifeWave Patches I am at a loss to comprehend.
Belief systems and how we arrive at our knowledge of the planet can be a precariuous path to enlightenment.
LifeWave works
I know I have used the patch and am aware of a change in my personal sense of well-being compared to before I used the patches.
As regards a world without politicians, speed the day. But if it's chaos you frightened of then I am sure an alternative system of checks and balances will prevail. But as that's an unlikely scenariio I will just have to put up with what ever politician is "chosen" as the leader in my country of residence. I will choose to not allow it to determine my place in life otherwise I'd be a very sad person based on that premise. I will still allow myself an opinion of the politicians who "try" to run the country of my residence and maintain a dignified snigger as they in-fight and put themselves through successive self inflicted hoops of derision as they pontificate on their subject of the day, terrorism, the laws of the land, company directorships and all the rest of the ncessary stuff they must discuss. It fills me with a hollow grin when I see them fall from grace through their indiscretion and the need to fall in line with party and public duties. For those outside the UK, note the passage of David Blunkett and David Mcletchie from Labour and Conservative parties respectively.
I will continue to use the LifeWave patch not through a belief in the advertising or marketing materials but because I have tried the product and do not wish to relinquish the benefits I have gained from using them. That is irrefutable and nothing can change that fact. |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 | 09:27 AM
Mr. James Randi? Yeah right.
Charybdis, better check the IP on that poster. |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 | 09:33 AM
Kenneth McPherson,
What the hell do politicians have to do with this? Enjoy your $90/month placebo. Lifewave thanks you. |
Alex
in San Diego
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 | 12:25 PM
The IP address is the same as that of Carter S, aka All Tweeked Up!
And incidentally, this thread now has almost 1400 comments, which might be a record for my site. |
EDHUK
Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 | 12:27 PM
Nice no see that gullibility and a good sense of humor are NOT exclusive.
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EDHUK
Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 | 12:41 PM
Kenneth McPherson
Is "My Wave Pro" your personal version of the patches website?
If you read this entire forum, and it is getting very long now, you will note that I have commented more than once that it is possible to experience genuine effects from a placebo.
I don't doubt you experience something when you wear the patches. I do, however question whether the glucose and glycerin discs are "talking" to your cells to tell them to increase your sense of well being.
Is it worth the money for a placebo? Well, if it does something for you, maybe it is. LifeWave doesn't claim to sell a placebo. They claim far more. In addition, the selling of the patches and the associated MLM structure, and much touted financial rewards, is the real reason behind the company.
WWSN1 has posted above details of a lawsuit. The money involved is huge and Mark Kline is obviously determined to get his share, one way or another.
It's not really about the patches at all, as has been mentioned by others. It's the financial structure that makes a certain owner very rich.
Enjoy Bonfire Night Kenneth. At least it falls on a Saturday this year.
Cheers.
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anon
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 | 01:35 PM
I think you guys are replying to forum trolls.
Even AbletoFly has lost all credibility with her "tale" of posting form the same IP.
OBviously this forum is gonna turn into a pissing match of trolls and the regulars with no proper resolution.
Obviously the trolls/lifewavers want to target this site because when you type in "lifewave hoax" this is one of the first search results, hence lifewavers want/need to make sure they can try and give some credibility to their name. |
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