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Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 | 04:20 AM
Captain Al said:
"Fascinating stuff WWSN1. I hadn't heard that LifeWave had backed out of the JREF Paranormal Challenge. I suspected that might happen if they were running a diliberate scam. They no doubt have some excuse like, "we don't have time, we are too busy developing our revolutionary product"."
Is it even believable that they "don't have time" to take a test, which they presumably believe they can pass easily, which will NOT prevent them from selling their product(s) (assuming they pass, that is) which will net them a MILLION DOLLARS?
I mean, it isn't as if they'd have to shut down their manufacturing or sales facility; all they'd have to do is provide a few samples and someone from their operation to oversee the testing.
"Well as your site shows, some of the distributors are claiming cures for things like cancer. That's getting into really serious stuff. If someone were to rely on LifeWave instead of proven therapy, it could do a lot of harm."
Yup, exactly.
"And if real medical science can't do something for your cancer, then these people are just taking advantage of those who are desparate. I consider them the lowest form of life in existence."
I completely agree that "lowest form of life in existance" applies to the people who make these things. I think it's possible, though, that at least some of the SELLERS are just as taken in by the hype and bullshit as the BUYERS are. They see what they WANT to see, in my opinion. Their intention may be to make money by doing good for their fellow man and they simply don't *want* to--and therefore don't--see that the patches are utter nonsense. |
Dr. Stephen R. Norris
in Calgary Alberta Canada
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 | 06:41 PM
Dear All
Thank you for the comments concerning these 'patches'. I work within the Human Performance Laboratory (Faculty of Kinesiology, University of Calgary) and have been approached by people associated with this product no doubt so as to be a conduit to the Canadian National Team athletes of the various Winter Olympic Sports based out of this institution (and the main training centre on campus, the Canadian Sport Centre Calgary).
I, of course, asked to see independent peer reviewed studies for verification of the claims made. To date, NONE have been forthcoming. To date, our rquest for product to be suppled so that we may carry out randomised, double-blind, cross-over investigations have been thwarted!
Still retaining an open mind, I am heavily skeptical......if only becuase of a seeming unwillingness for transparency and independent analysis; but hey, I'm sure there are alot of folks laughing all the way to the bank!
Thanks for listening...and I'll keep you updated if anything changes.
Steve |
Boo
in The Land of the Haggii...
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 | 06:52 PM
On behalf of all those who are dubious as to the veracity of these patches, I thank you, Steve.
Please do keep us updated as to responses from these people. |
Steve Norris (HPL, UofC)
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 | 10:31 AM
Hi there Bob
Just replied to you directly, but wanted to keep the 'forum' in the loop.
I would not post anything, anywhere, without it being 'true'. I am hopeful that some recent discussions may lead to investigative work being undertaken at UBC (University of British Columbia, Vancouver, BC) and here at the UofC......but this is not confirmed as of yet.
Steve |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 | 11:37 AM
Dr. Norris,
I would be interested in knowing what professional researchers, such as yourself, have to say about LifeWave's explanation of how their product works. I'm referring specifically to the "frequency modulation of the body's magnetic field". |
crankymediaguy
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 | 01:57 AM
Has anyone in this discussion noted yet that the LifeWave patches are sold via multi-level marketing? Does THAT set off any bells for anyone? |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 | 03:15 AM
Some of you will be interested to know that James Randi now knows of this site and thread. I had my first-ever phone call with him Monday afternoon (long story).
In the course of the conversation, he told me that he will have some new information about LifeWave patches and NASA on his site (randi.org) this Friday. I got a peek at it and it's good stuff!
Yes, I'm shamelessly dropping Randi's name; he's been one of my heroes for a long time and I was really happy to talk to him for the first time. My daughter said I was acting like a "fanboy." Guilty as charged. |
Razela
in Chicago, IL
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 | 12:07 PM
Awww! CMG is all smitten. No worries though, I'm pretty sure I understand the way you feel. I can't wait to read Randi's new commentary. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 | 08:28 PM
Razela said:
"Awww! CMG is all smitten. No worries though, I'm pretty sure I understand the way you feel. I can't wait to read Randi's new commentary."
OK, so I'm a groupie. It isn't every day that you get to talk to an officially certified genius (Randi got a McArthur "Genius" Award some years back). |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 | 09:21 AM
Y...o...u a...c...t...u...a...l...l...y y...a...l...k...e...d t...o Randi?  You are my hero! Can I touch you? |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 | 03:44 PM
Captain Al said:
"Y...o...u a...c...t...u...a...l...l...y y...a...l...k...e...d t...o Randi? gulp You are my hero! Can I touch you?"
Scary, isn't it? |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 | 04:26 AM
Lookie what I found:
http://ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/homeopathyholmes.htm
Oliver Wendell Holmes on homeopathy! |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 | 09:47 AM
Not much happening with this thread since LifeWave weaseled out of the JREF Paranormal Challenge.
I hope you all checked out the stuff on www.worldwidescam.com. |
Cranky Media Guy
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 | 03:21 AM
Captain Al said:
"Not much happening with this thread since LifeWave weaseled out of the JREF Paranormal Challenge."
Yeah, they've gotten VERY quiet since NASA and Morehouse College told them to cut the shit with the "endorsements," huh?
By the way, when I spoke to Randi last week, I asked him if he would like a pair of LifeWave patches. He said, "Absolutely," so I sent him one of the three pair I got from the guy who offered them to me on this thread. I'm looking forward to seeing what Mr. R. will have to say about them. |
Charybdis
in Hell
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 | 09:05 AM
[not sarcasm] Gosh, I just feel so special basking in your greatness. [/not sarcasm] 
I'd really love to see one of Randi's lectures but I'm to budget stupid to save up the money to hit a conference. |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 | 11:31 AM
CMG,
If I get time today I will do another search of LifeWave dealer sites to see if they have removed the references to Morehouse College and Troy Uninversity.
Can any of the LifeWave dealers who posted here tell us if recent events have hurt their sales? |
David B.
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 | 12:59 PM
Captain Al,
http://www.jaredstory.com/energy_morehouse-study.html
http://www.contactplus.com/lifewave/studies.htm
http://www.longlifecatalogs.com/Products.asp?Product=1427&Category=33
http://www.energypathzone.com/morehouse-study.htm
http://www.bow-mac.com/042LifeWave.html
http://www.waterchi.com/lifewave.html
http://www.energyrich.com/html/an_open_letter.html
Nope! |
Captain Al
in Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 | 05:43 PM
Thanks for saving me the trouble David. Now, how about those sales figures? |
Lifer
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 | 06:10 PM
Captian Al, I can assure you that the companies sales are very strong and mine continue to go up every week.
On the front page of the LifeWave corporate website there is an interview with the head coach from Morehouse about the patches.
If you want to see one reason why LifeWave's business continues to grow watch this video of LifeWave's Sport Director, Coach Richard Quick from Stanford University. He brings instant credibility to anything he does:
www.videoinsiders.com |
crankymediaguy
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 | 07:13 PM
Charybdis said:
"[not sarcasm] Gosh, I just feel so special basking in your greatness. [/not sarcasm]"
You may rise now, Supplicant. |
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