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Katherine
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 | 06:05 PM
I'm almost sure that that's an elaborate hoax. Click on "Halloween Reclamation": "Boo! I'm John the Baptist, and these are my many exciting exploits." Er...
They also link to our old friends the Landover Baptist Church saying that they're a fraud. Double blind, maybe? Possibly these are the same people behind the LBC? |
Nick
in Merrie Olde Englande
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 | 06:20 PM
link does nae work. is this the same thing? |
Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 | 07:18 PM
The truth is scarier than fiction on this subject, folks. The newly-elected President of my local School Board publically stated during the elections that he supported teaching Creationism alongside Evolution Theory, in order to offer a "balanced" curriculum. Time marches backward. |
Myst
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 | 07:49 PM
I can't understand why people can't accept the possibility of creationism and evolutionism working together. Some Force ( call it whatever you want) created the universe and then just sat back to see what happened. |
Glamcat
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 | 08:14 PM
Is this for real???? I have a sickening feeling it might be. I live in the south and I know people like this! |
Glamcat
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 | 08:18 PM
I totally agree with Myst. I've never understood why the two theories are mutually exclusive. Why is it so hard to believe that God, (or whatever force you believe created the universe) would have built into it a self evolving system? Makes perfect sense to me.  |
Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 | 09:02 PM
We are talking education here, guys. Your line of thinking would require that every lesson on every subject in school be predicated by a statement like: "Yes, one plus one equals two, but God made one, two, and three, therefore one plus one equals two only if you add in God". That's Old Math. I was taught New Math, which says: "one plus one equals two, sometimes, depending upon your speed and distance from Ignorance". Remember, it's 2005, not 1005. They say Faith can't be measured. If that is true, then Faith has no place in Science Class. Faith is fine, even necessary to some, but not all. THAT is the crux of this biscuit. We should all be free to hold our own Faith, free from the constraints or urging of others. Faith and Force are mutually exclusive. I shouldn't force my Faith upon my brothers. Science is FACT. Faith is FAITH. One is undeniable, the other subject to personal interpretation. |
Simon Patfield
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 | 10:52 PM
Myst, Glamcat,
I do find it hard to believe, but what you're talking about isn't creationism, it's a prime mover; that may be compatible with evolution, but a literal reading of the Christian bible is not. |
Citizen Premier
in San Diego
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 | 12:51 AM
The website is a hoax, I believe it's been covered somewhere on this site; it's a companion to landover baptist. And I do hope this doesn't become a mega-thread about the horrors of evolution vs. creationism, as that has nothing to do with hoaxes. |
Myst
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 | 02:47 AM
Right you are Citizen Premier, the site was covered by Alex on Tue Dec 07, 2004.
I got to clicking links on the web site posted in this thread and clicked on the have you accepted christ yet button. That silly baby face is what triggered my memory so I dug around the Museum of Hoaxes and found it. Have You Forsaken Jesus? Case solved, hoax. |
Adjin
in Norway
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 | 05:46 AM
very funny non the less.
I think it's a hoax, easyest hint low on front page. raising the allosaur.
I totally agree with them tho, saying: This adventure-filled true story will show Creation Science Fair participants that, with just a little spunk and a trowel, even they can overturn decades of Evolutionistic dogma
Get that spunk out... |
Glamcat
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 | 08:23 AM
"I hate spunk"
Lou Grant |
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 | 04:33 PM
I feel like evolution is taught in schools as fact, rather than as a theory. If schools urged students to understand what a theory is, and explained things to them, I would have no problem with evolution being taught. But kids are walking away with the thought that "this is what happened!", rather than, "this is the possibility of what happened."
I do remember learning that spontaneous generation (is that the right term?) cannot happen...as in, it was thought that a bag of wheat seeds would CREATE mice, (mice always seemed to end up in the bags during storage) but when they took those wheat seeds & sealed them in a jar...mice were not produced.
I plan on homeschooling my daughter (I was homeschooled), and I will teach her creationism & evolution, but I'll be sure she understands everything she needs to know about 'theory' first. |
Alex
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 | 04:58 PM
But Maegan, I don't think all theories are equal. There are some theories that are backed up by a huge amount of evidence and research, such as evolution. And then there are 'theories' which aren't really backed up by any evidence, such as Creationism.
Comparing the theory of Evolution to the theory of Creationism seems to me a bit like comparing the theory that infections are caused by bacteria to the theory that infections are caused by witches' curses. They may both be theories, but they're not really equally credible. |
Citizen Premier
in San Diego
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 | 05:20 PM
uh oh, major debate coming... |
Nick
in Merrie Olde Englande
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 | 05:24 PM
'debate'? i think you mean 'desperate attempt to make hardcore creationists to see sense' |
Glamcat
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 | 06:11 PM
Uh oh, this could get ugly.
From my experience on these debates you end up hitting your head against a brick wall called "faith". When it comes down to it, faith & logic have nothing to do with eachother so don't even try, you won't get anywhere. |
Glamcat
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 | 06:11 PM
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Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 | 10:58 AM
...I'm not really going to debate anyone, and I do see Alex's point. Trying to explain Creationism to someone who doesn't take the Bible literally is like trying to explain color to a blind person. There was a time in our history when religion was all the rage, then science, then religion...you get the idea. Each time one has dominated things in a way totally unfair to the other. Explain faith? Oh, you can't? Then it must not be real. Explain water? Sure, you take some hydrogen, some oxygen...bam! you've got water, right? It's easy to say something doesn't exist, b/c you can't touch it, or see it. What about Love? People love each other, but could you trap it in tupperware & run tests on it to see what it's made of? People have sex, because they love each other...but where is this love & what does it come from? The heart maybe? This just pushes blood around in your body...there's no REAL explanation for it. It's the same way with God, faith, belief. I fully understand why people think evolution is truly what's happening. I just can't believe that evolution IS what's happening. |
Alex
in San Diego
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 | 07:53 PM
No, Maegan is right that evolution is a theory, not a fact. It would be unscientific to call it a fact.
But I don't think Creationism is also a theory.
Theories can be disproven, but Creationism can never be disproven, in the minds of those who believe it, because the only evidence it relies upon is the 'word of God'. Creationism is a faith-based assertion, not a theory. |
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