It's hosted on a free web hosting service. No, it's not real.
Maegan
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 | 11:21 AM
If it's fake, it's a pretty involved hoax. I tried to go as far as I could w/ the ORDER NOW buttons. It goes to paypal info. The funniest line was about how if you have a damaged or compromised brain you shouldn't use.
Other than the fact that it's on a free web hosting site, the reason I would presume to think it's fake is because it never really SAYS what it does. I mean it goes into all these long explanations about why/how it was built and what the previous models were for...I was a little confused.
There's always a possibility of real names being used for a fake purpose. That just seems too illegal even for the internet.
Hairy Houdini
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 | 06:08 PM
My odd friend who aimed me toward the "Shakti" site suggests the coil is used to induce psychadelic visions, like Paisley patterns and other LSD-like effects. I think it may just generate cash, myself.Alex?
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in USA
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 | 02:50 PM
It's on a free server, but there are no ads, so it's probably been upgraded to 'premium' or some such thing that has to be paid for.
The guy, Todd, is listed on the university's web page.
As for what it does, it's pretty clear that it's for having altered states, and as anyone who has ever smoked pot knows, everybody's different where that's concrned. The same goes for the 'light and sound' devices, too. I'd be suspisious of any technology that promised the same thing to everyone.
The note not to use it if you have brain damage is probably to cover the liability.
I got interested after seeing a documentary on TV, and going to google.
I doubt it's a hoax. The 8-coils version isn't so cheap, but there are others that cost much less, so it's probaby not a hoax. Why scam for only a few bucks?
I wrote the webmaster an email (asking about using it with yoga), and he replied pretty quickly. He said that it would add to Yoga best by using it first, and then doing Yoga afterwards. He also suggested a couple of specific 'signals' to try. Too precise an answer for a hoax. The guy could have not answered at all.
I plan to get one of the cheaper ones at some point, and if it adds to my yoga experience, I'll know it.
I love the idea that science and technology has grown enough to start adding to the spirtual side, and I hate to see it put down only because it's on a cheap server (it won't be free if there's no ads)
Meagan's link went to a LONG list of serious research, and some of it is about this kind of technology. Personally, I think it's probably for real.
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA Member
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 | 10:21 AM
Let us know how it works when you get the chance.
Unwilling Texan Member
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 | 11:06 AM
Interesting but I think I can probably just close my eyes and spin around in circles really fast to induce lots of strange stuff in my head. And that's free. Plus I don't have to worry about the brain damage disclaimer that way, right?
It will be interesting to hear a report from a satisfied customer!
BugbearSloth
in earth, 3rd planet, sol system Member
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 | 11:07 PM
It is real. I can tell. "Shakti For Windows" can't possibly be fake, right? I mean, Microsoft always wrote the best operating systems and software ever, right?
The point of this thing is clear: it is designed to induce users into having "religious" experiences.
Of course, I can get a lot of religious experiences out of $100 US worth of Jameson Irish Whiskey, too.
BugbearSloth
in earth, 3rd planet, sol system Member
I want one. Keep your booze and your spinning around.
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 | 12:07 PM
Yes, it works. I got the version with two coils, and used it over my parietal lobes an hour before doing yoga.
It was the most fluid yoga session of my life. The feeling lasted for three days, even though it was subtle. I want one with the eight coils, and I want some ear plugs and a better blindfold, too.
This is for real.
Andrew
in Lompoc, CA
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 | 01:36 PM
I personally own the 2coil shakti after looking and reading most of the scientific research put out by Persinger and Todd Murphy.
I am happy to say it is not a hoax. I'm very happy with the results. I plan on trying more settings and brain areas in the future.
It does not cause brain damage, nor could it. It uses very low Mili-gause settings, I think the max is 15mg which is weaker or equivalent to a headphone magnet that many people wear for HOURS at a time next to their temporal lobes...
Andrew
in Lompoc, CA
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 | 01:46 PM
He pays for the account, thus it is not free. He's a researcher thus he does need funding to keep researching such devices and treatments. Most researchers are funded by large coporations. I doubt a device that can have such profound improvements in mental health would be supported by the drug industry.. Look at Cranial Eletrotheraphy Stimulation for example, it took years of research for companies like Alpha-stim to produce enough research to have such devices classified as medical devices.
Also who's to say they want the device classified? Once classified the price will more than likely jump to 1000$ or more. (the high-end alpha stim costs 998$) I wonder what the high-powered magnetic treament companies want or their prototype machines? (30,000$?)
And why pay so much when you can easily get the results from a much lower mili-gause treatment.
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA Member
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 | 05:53 AM
Is this going to become like the DNA Perfection thread??
juan carlos
in colombia sur america
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 | 07:31 AM
hola soy de colombia lamento no escribir en ingles
no se el idioma.
voy a comprar un 8 coil pero deseo saber un usuario
que la haya comprado ya para saber si lo que dicen es verdad gracias
funter comment
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 | 10:51 AM
Aquí están dos comentarios de la página del thsi mismo: UNO: Conseguí la versión con dos bobinas, y la utilicé sobre mis lóbulos parietales a la hora antes de hacer yoga. Era la sesión más flúida del yoga de mi vida. La sensación duró por tres días, aunque era sutil. Deseo uno con las ocho bobinas, y deseo algunos enchufes del oído y un con los ojos vendados mejor, también. DOS: Me plazco decir que no es broma. Soy muy feliz con los resultados. Planeo en intentar más ajustes y áreas del cerebro en el futuro. Utilice http://www.babelfish.altavista.com
"The deeply relaxed state continued and I felt a feeling of expansion. Like my whole body was getting larger. Perhaps I was becoming more aware of my energy body. The feeling kept coming in waves. After about 20 minutes I saw a flash of light that was like clouds parting to reveal what was behind them."
I shook my head reading this page. The people who say it's fake show no evidence, and the people who say it's real do.
Both of the simplistic comments claiming it's a fake are from webhosting sites. Ya gotta wonder why. Could be URL spamming (that's where you put your own link on a bunch of sites so Google thinks your link is more popular than it really is).
Symphonic Mind
in Bristol
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 | 03:27 AM
Oh give me a break... no use in claiming fraud without checking your science - that is SCIENCE and not the religion of materialism masquerading as science.
I do neurofeedback for a living - and i have an 8 coil shakti which i use the same as any other trans-cranial inducer. This is old tech, get out of the 20th century there guys.
