Terry Austin
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 | 09:22 PM
It's hosted on a free web hosting service. No, it's not real. |
Maegan
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 | 01:21 PM
If it's fake, it's a pretty involved hoax. I tried to go as far as I could w/ the ORDER NOW buttons. It goes to paypal info. The funniest line was about how if you have a damaged or compromised brain you shouldn't use.
Other than the fact that it's on a free web hosting site, the reason I would presume to think it's fake is because it never really SAYS what it does. I mean it goes into all these long explanations about why/how it was built and what the previous models were for...I was a little confused. |
Maegan
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 | 01:26 PM
Hmm...after I left here I went to google & checked out the names of the 'doctors' involved...Here's something interesting:
http://www.laurentian.ca/neurosci/_files/PersingerCV.pdf
There's always a possibility of real names being used for a fake purpose. That just seems too illegal even for the internet. |
Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 | 08:08 PM
My odd friend who aimed me toward the "Shakti" site suggests the coil is used to induce psychadelic visions, like Paisley patterns and other LSD-like effects. I think it may just generate cash, myself.Alex? |
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 | 03:50 PM
It's on a free server, but there are no ads, so it's probably been upgraded to 'premium' or some such thing that has to be paid for.
The site has a letter from the doctor that makes it plain that it isn't a hoax.
http://www.innerworlds.50megs.com/credentials.htm
The guy, Todd, is listed on the university's web page.
As for what it does, it's pretty clear that it's for having altered states, and as anyone who has ever smoked pot knows, everybody's different where that's concrned. The same goes for the 'light and sound' devices, too. I'd be suspisious of any technology that promised the same thing to everyone.
There's a long report on another site that has some pretty good things to say about it.
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=25150
The note not to use it if you have brain damage is probably to cover the liability.
I got interested after seeing a documentary on TV, and going to google.
I doubt it's a hoax. The 8-coils version isn't so cheap, but there are others that cost much less, so it's probaby not a hoax. Why scam for only a few bucks?
I wrote the webmaster an email (asking about using it with yoga), and he replied pretty quickly. He said that it would add to Yoga best by using it first, and then doing Yoga afterwards. He also suggested a couple of specific 'signals' to try. Too precise an answer for a hoax. The guy could have not answered at all.
I plan to get one of the cheaper ones at some point, and if it adds to my yoga experience, I'll know it.
I love the idea that science and technology has grown enough to start adding to the spirtual side, and I hate to see it put down only because it's on a cheap server (it won't be free if there's no ads)
Meagan's link went to a LONG list of serious research, and some of it is about this kind of technology. Personally, I think it's probably for real. |
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 | 11:21 AM
Let us know how it works when you get the chance. |
Unwilling Texan
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 | 12:06 PM
Interesting but I think I can probably just close my eyes and spin around in circles really fast to induce lots of strange stuff in my head. And that's free. Plus I don't have to worry about the brain damage disclaimer that way, right?
It will be interesting to hear a report from a satisfied customer! |
BugbearSloth
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 | 12:07 AM
It is real. I can tell. "Shakti For Windows" can't possibly be fake, right? I mean, Microsoft always wrote the best operating systems and software ever, right?
The point of this thing is clear: it is designed to induce users into having "religious" experiences.
Of course, I can get a lot of religious experiences out of $100 US worth of Jameson Irish Whiskey, too. |
BugbearSloth
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 | 12:10 AM
"Sorry, no Mac, Unix or Linux versions" |
Dutchman
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 | 04:15 AM
This ain't no hoax.
Check this out:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12831278
I want one. Keep your booze and your spinning around. |
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 | 02:07 PM
Yes, it works. I got the version with two coils, and used it over my parietal lobes an hour before doing yoga.
It was the most fluid yoga session of my life. The feeling lasted for three days, even though it was subtle. I want one with the eight coils, and I want some ear plugs and a better blindfold, too.
This is for real. |
Andrew
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 | 03:36 PM
I personally own the 2coil shakti after looking and reading most of the scientific research put out by Persinger and Todd Murphy.
Here's one http://www.laurentian.ca/neurosci/_files/PersingerCV.pdf
& here to
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15527205&query_hl=6
I am happy to say it is not a hoax. I'm very happy with the results. I plan on trying more settings and brain areas in the future.
It does not cause brain damage, nor could it. It uses very low Mili-gause settings, I think the max is 15mg which is weaker or equivalent to a headphone magnet that many people wear for HOURS at a time next to their temporal lobes... |
Andrew
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 | 03:46 PM
He pays for the account, thus it is not free. He's a researcher thus he does need funding to keep researching such devices and treatments. Most researchers are funded by large coporations. I doubt a device that can have such profound improvements in mental health would be supported by the drug industry.. Look at Cranial Eletrotheraphy Stimulation for example, it took years of research for companies like Alpha-stim to produce enough research to have such devices classified as medical devices.
Also who's to say they want the device classified? Once classified the price will more than likely jump to 1000$ or more. (the high-end alpha stim costs 998$) I wonder what the high-powered magnetic treament companies want or their prototype machines? (30,000$?)
And why pay so much when you can easily get the results from a much lower mili-gause treatment. |
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 | 07:53 AM
Is this going to become like the DNA Perfection thread?? |
juan carlos
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 | 09:31 AM
hola soy de colombia lamento no escribir en ingles
no se el idioma.
voy a comprar un 8 coil pero deseo saber un usuario
que la haya comprado ya para saber si lo que dicen es verdad gracias |
funter comment
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 | 12:51 PM
Aqu |
Webhosts
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 | 12:05 PM
It's fake. |
cheap web hosting
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 | 04:59 PM
its fake alright |
Working
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 | 01:13 PM
It's real:
http://tinyurl.com/2epzu5
"The deeply relaxed state continued and I felt a feeling of expansion. Like my whole body was getting larger. Perhaps I was becoming more aware of my energy body. The feeling kept coming in waves. After about 20 minutes I saw a flash of light that was like clouds parting to reveal what was behind them."
Try this link, too -
http://tinyurl.com/3y3hcj
I shook my head reading this page. The people who say it's fake show no evidence, and the people who say it's real do.
Both of the simplistic comments claiming it's a fake are from webhosting sites. Ya gotta wonder why. Could be URL spamming (that's where you put your own link on a bunch of sites so Google thinks your link is more popular than it really is). |
Symphonic Mind
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 | 05:27 AM
Oh give me a break... no use in claiming fraud without checking your science - that is SCIENCE and not the religion of materialism masquerading as science.
I do neurofeedback for a living - and i have an 8 coil shakti which i use the same as any other trans-cranial inducer. This is old tech, get out of the 20th century there guys. |
PPG
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Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 | 07:31 PM
:-)
The 8 Coil Shakti has been an awesome thing for me! I've had out of body experiences (twice), had short visions, and had times where I felt like I was floating instead of walking. My girlfrind has seen a real improvement in her moods (and she needed it).
I was flabbergasted by the comments here accusing it of being a hoax. No way.
It's the real deal, and I give it ten stars.
I don't know what a trans cranial inducer is (?), but hey, different strokes for different folks.
My 2 cents. |
John
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 | 12:26 PM
I actually bought the seperate materials and put an 8 coil system together. I can only say what I have found after a short time of using this device. I get very vivid images that I usually do not have. So, does it work? For me it does. |
Master Splinter
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 | 09:20 PM
I'll respond to a very interesting comment posted regarding the funding. Many researchers are self funded, that is the truly ambtious and creative ones. I've known Persinger and have gotten in contact with Todd Murphy and their work is legitimate, simply not headlined. Read Persinger's page at Laurentian.ca and it indicates that much of the work they do is 5 - 10 years ahead of it's time. It's true.
I've read some of Persinger's rsearch he and his colleagues made over the spand of the last decade or so in psy phenomena and I assure you nothing has even been pucblished yet... There's a reason for that. The same reason people deny any legitimacy towards the work.
Persinger's work in ESP along side with (clairvoyance, telepathy and other phenomenas) have yet to be elaborated or even strategized in other attempts to discover more about such topics.
We see it with Todd Murphy for example. Everything he knows and does is strongly based on Persi's work.
You people haven't seen anything yet. Witin the next 5 years I believe they'll be a whoop ass of work coming out.
Chow. |
Master Splinter
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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 | 09:23 PM
Master Splinter... Pretty cool name huh? I came up with it without the shakti.
Chow. |
Ron
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 | 04:01 PM
Hello, I've just received the 8 coil Shakti system that I ordered. However, I received 16 coils, 8 pairs marked from 1 through 8 and 2 usb hubs. I found no explanation for this in the software or website. Can anyone help? Thanks very much. |
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 | 12:48 PM
The system with 16 coils is the "Shiva" system. |
