This seems to use some correct references of the Bible to lead people into believong an incorrect passage from the Koran / Quran
Can anyone support this 9:11 passage?
Here is the email i received:
IRAQ - VERY INTERESTING - DID YOU KNOW?
1. The garden of Eden was in Iraq.
2. Mesopotamia, which is now Iraq, was the cradle of civilization!
3. Noah built the ark in Iraq.
4. The Tower of Babel was in Iraq.
5. Abraham was from Ur, which is in Southern Iraq!
6. Isaac�s wife Rebekah is from Nahor, which is in Iraq.
7. Jacob met Rachel in Iraq.
8. Jonah preached in Nineveh - which is in Iraq.
9. Assyria, which is in Iraq, conquered the ten tribes of Israel.
10. Amos cried out in Iraq!
11. Babylon, which is in Iraq, destroyed Jerusalem.
12. Daniel was in the lion�s den in Iraq!
13. The three Hebrew children were in the fire in Iraq (Jesus had been in Iraq) also as the fourth person in the fiery furnace!)
14. Belshazzar, the King of Babylon saw the �writing on the wall� in Iraq.
15. Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon, carried the Jews captive into Iraq.
16. Ezekiel preached in Iraq.
17. The wise men were from Iraq.
18. Peter preached in Iraq.
19. The �Empire of Man� described in Revelation is called Babylon, which was a city in Iraq!
And you have probably seen this one. Israel is the nation most often mentioned in the Bible. But do you know which nation is second? It is Iraq!
However, that is not the name that is used in the Bible. The names used in the Bible are Babylon, Land of Shinar, and Mesopotamia. The word Mesopotamia means between the two rivers, more exactly between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers.
The name Iraq, means country with deep roots.
Indeed Iraq is a country with deep roots and is a very significant country in the Bible.
No other nation, except Israel, has more history and prophecy associated it than Iraq.
And also... This is something to think about! Since America is typically represented by an eagle. Saddam should have read up on his Muslim passages...
The following verse is from the Koran, (the Islamic Bible)
Koran (9:11) - For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace.
(Note the verse number!) Hmmmmmmm?! God Bless you all Amen !
jimmyjay. I have a Bible on my computer two on my desk and I cannot find what you posted in them. I do agree that I did read in Revelations that the 144,000 elect that are with Jesus in the last days are Virgins (or not having sex?) and it is true that only men can get into Heaven! Most of the Bible has been proven to be correct. There has been some elites that have changed a few things. Something's have been translated wrong on purpose. But for those that study and seek the Truth they will find it. It was not meant to be understood by everyone or it would have been destroyed by the elites who by the way would not let people read it for over a thousand year. Just look how the chip is coming out now. How could have he even guessed such a thing that long ago? You will see Revelations come true in your lifetime if you live very long. The only way that will not happen is if people start obeying the Father. Honour your Father in Heaven and KEEP His COMMANDMENTS; LAWS; Statutes; Judgements; Economic Policy; Agricultural Policy and Diet that He gave to YOU and yours , at Mt. Sinai and make Him proud of YOU.
The two witnesses that John refers to that will be destroyed are Britain and the U.S.A. This is all new {"a known manic depressive"} there are very few truly mentally ill people. This is just more of the lies that your elites push on you.
Sharruma
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 | 01:03 AM
The bible has been translated and translated since it was first written, if a god ever did put a message there is has been long since lost.
1. Bible is written as several books in and ancient language (suppose for arguments sake it was written by people under the influence of a god)
2. Bible is translated by hand. The translator makes many mistakes changing the original meaning of many passages. Translator also feels that certain passages are wrong and artistically alters them to suit his own beliefs about what god meant to say.
3. Wash and repeat.
4. Pope gets hold of bible (not sure which pope), reads it and decides that certain books and sections of other books just don't fit in with his beliefs. These are removed.
5. Book is translated many more times until the printing press is invented, this creates so many copies that it can no longer be adjusted.
6. The result is a book that has been translated so often that it is like the printed result of a game of chinese whispers. It contradicts itself a lot and if somehow anything of the word of god still exists in it's pages it would take a wiser man than I to find it amongst all the chaff.
Myself, I like to keep an open mind. That doesn't mean denying the existence of god but rather being willing to accept that they're might be something out there but also that there might not. I'm open to either possibility, but I won't turn my life upside down for a deity that demands to be worshiped.
Thing I think I love the most is how much people will ignore recorded facts when they don't fit in with their own beliefs.
I want to be a Martian
in Spain
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 | 02:18 AM
Again, religion, the mother of all conspiracies, the biggest con job, used to justify the unjustifiable. And on top of that, using the ignorance that characterises most people regarding the myths (ergo religions)of the world in order to present as true something that is totally bollocks.
Just consider for an instant Judaism; it was started by a defrocked Egyptian Faraoh. Most patriarchs of the early old testament can be traced back to actual Egyptian generals, faraohs and priests. The running Egyptians just changed names and invented their own history. No wonder there is no trace of a "king David" in real historians' books.
Chistianism? three quarters of the same glob. A clever set up that copied the myths of Krishna, Buda and some 10 other religions figures, plus the lifes of 2 or three anti-Roman rebel freedom-fighters (or shall I say terrorists?) into one character...
Islam, what can I say? Didn't they get into a big fight early on that derived on different types of rites just because one side thought that the Profet's (peace be upon him) uncle was nicer than the grandchild and thus, the true inheritor of the leadership, and viceversa, or something along the line?
Peace brothers, we should work for this world, and stop guiding our actions by some myth of spiritual afterlife for ourselves. It is such a narcisitic and egotistic approach to just do thing that will "save" our "souls" instead of trying to fix the world's problems!
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA Member
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 | 05:30 AM
...simply for clarifications sake, could those of you responding to this please seperate "Christian" from "Religion". I have noted in other posts that these are 2 very different things...Thanks.
donny
in u.k
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 | 06:34 AM
brandon You are a fool if you belive what you say about Islam being a religion which encourages war you call chad an idiot for not looking things up for himself. Well I suggest you look up your beliefs before you open your mouth. Killing in Islam is strictly forbidden in Islam and is punishable by death. During war muslims are not allowed to kill anything except those which are attacking them.
You talk about the crusades. Look at the history of the crusades when Muslims ruled the Holy land Muslims Jews and Christians were living there at peace with one another On the other hand when the Christian crusaders were there the road ran red with rivers of the blood of Muslims Jews and Christians.
Get your facts right Prick
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA Member
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 | 07:28 AM
...A little sensitive are we?
Scorpion
in sweden
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 | 07:47 AM
It's sad that many so-called christians need to smear Islam in order to get more followers while doing things forbidden in their religion. Jesus didn't wrote the Bible nor did his diciples, it was done around AD:100. And all the lies about Islam u hear everywhere, like arabs bombing WTC wich is of course is a lie. There was no arabs on those planes (check the flightboards from that day and the autopsy rapport of those in flight 77) and the 19 hijacker story is just a myth, many of those who's beleieved to have hijacked the planes is still alive and well. Wich of course isn't possible if they really were on those planes. And Islam didn't spread by the sword as many in america believe but by the pen.
You should all be afraid by those christian zionists and not by arabs, these so-called christians believe that by killing all muslims and starting a new world war, that Jesus will return and they are working hand in hand with zionist jews in order to do that.
Take a look at this site, u may end up learning something.
Dammit! I've been figured out. I HAVE been trying to kill all those who oppose my God!! MWAHAHAHAHA!
Get a grip.
Scorpion
in sweden
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 | 09:15 AM
Get a grip?
Are u saying that u are a christian zionist and that i am lying about your kind?
Cause i didn't say christians but christian zionists,not the same thing.
And i know what's in the Bible and it don't say kill innocent people, as many fundemental zionists claim.
Btw did u know that u can go to jail in sweden for preaching about the Bible in the churchs, what a lovely christian country aight?
Many around the world have had enough with american hypocrisy, talking about freedom while occupying other nations and supporting dictators.
Peace
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA Member
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 | 09:34 AM
I said "Get a grip" b/c you need to GET A GRIP on reality. Yes, there are terrible evils everywhere...You can't stop them alone, and you're not going to stop them by telling everyone else how evil they are on a HOAX website.
The first part of my post was joking sarcasm. I must have caught Christopher Cole's "no-humor" bug. It's going around. Don't let it bite you!
Ilyes
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 | 12:06 PM
To Brandon: go search History! Moslems never killed people for the sake of God; only fought oppressors and those who attacked them. There was no conquest by the sword, as many Westerners are being taught in their evil, freemasonically distorted school system. Moslems used their army to defend their brothers and sisters where they lived. Jews and Christians have always lived in peace under the protection of Moslems in old uncivilized Europe of the Middles Ages. Jews were persecuted in Spain and found protection with Moslems. Now, lots of them agree with the devilish, zionist (Hitler-like), illegal occupiers of Palestine...
Where in the Quraan do you find encouragement to kill innocents? Wanna find out about the Christians killing innocents? Have the courage to read http://www.geocities.com/mewatch99/islamvschristianity.html and also http://www.geocities.com/mewatch99/twolessons.html .
Some quotes of the Bible are really scary. Try http://www.allaahuakbar.net/jew/evil.htm Search your own Book and find about some verses used by the Zionists to justify their supremacy claims. You're just a "Goy". Like me...
May God guide all and enlighten hearts so they see evil where it really is!
Peace to all those who really want it!
For an interesting commentary on the whole Jewish/Christian/Muslim realtionship, find the book "The Source" by James Michener. Yes, it's one of those books they sell by the pound (over 1000 pages).
The book starts out with cavemen who have no god, and explores man's relationship with different gods from prehistoric times until the present, and explores why man created and/or worshipped these gods.
It's only fiction, true, but if you can get through it, you will have learned a lot about the changing religious tides of history, especially as it relates to the Jewish peopleand the "holy" land.
Chrisitan
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 | 01:38 PM
James Michener? WOW another jew zionists saying the truth and the only truth about Islam.
No Sir, I am enjoying reading the Talmud, the premier book for jews. This book is a hate book. It should baned and everyone and all those who follow it will need to disapear from the face of this planet before we can have any peace.
HA! I value your religious opinion highly, seeing as how you can't spell christian properly.
How can you say it is a hate book when you have never even opened the cover?
And, if you'd actually pick it up and read it instead of automatically saying it's crap, you might learn a thing or two.
I never said it was the truth, I said it was fiction. Since when are novels supposed to be taken as the truth?
All I was saying is that it was an "interesting commentary".
Oh, and by the way, it actually explores the non-voilence of the Muslim rulers to their non-muslim citizens, which supports what you are saying. So hey, if you want to call it crap, go right ahead.
Muslim
in USA
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 | 02:35 PM
I've read this thread and start laughing at the one who made it up. It's so pathetic.
For my Christian brothers and sisters:
A/ Quran is not based on prophesies at all. If any Muslim tells you that, go online and check the available English translations. Quarn is mainly instructions and few stories to illustrate the meaning.
B/The reference in Quarn is Sura then Aya (i.e Chapter, if you will, and verse) when you say 9/11 and connect that to the events, you're actually enforcing the connection. In fact you say Suara or chapter Tawba, Aya or verse 11. Americans would say 9/11 as in September 11, however, in the Muslim world it is 11/9, they start with day instead of the month.
Although the whole verse is a joke, I only wanted you to be aware that Quran is not that rich with prophesies as the Bible is, it is not calls the (Islamic Bible), and to be aware of those who preach Jesus' love and forgiveness while they themselves preach lies and hated.
I think it is safe to say that a fundamentalist of any religion (Christian, Islam, Jew, pagan, Buddhist, etc.) is a dangerous thing.
If we could just quit fighting over who is right we could spend our energy and money on other things like feeding the poor, cleaning up our environment and maybe even doing what we humans do best, explore, space would be a really cool place to go do some exploring.
