This seems to use some correct references of the Bible to lead people into believong an incorrect passage from the Koran / Quran
Can anyone support this 9:11 passage?
Here is the email i received:
IRAQ - VERY INTERESTING - DID YOU KNOW?
1. The garden of Eden was in Iraq.
2. Mesopotamia, which is now Iraq, was the cradle of civilization!
3. Noah built the ark in Iraq.
4. The Tower of Babel was in Iraq.
5. Abraham was from Ur, which is in Southern Iraq!
6. Isaac�s wife Rebekah is from Nahor, which is in Iraq.
7. Jacob met Rachel in Iraq.
8. Jonah preached in Nineveh - which is in Iraq.
9. Assyria, which is in Iraq, conquered the ten tribes of Israel.
10. Amos cried out in Iraq!
11. Babylon, which is in Iraq, destroyed Jerusalem.
12. Daniel was in the lion�s den in Iraq!
13. The three Hebrew children were in the fire in Iraq (Jesus had been in Iraq) also as the fourth person in the fiery furnace!)
14. Belshazzar, the King of Babylon saw the �writing on the wall� in Iraq.
15. Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon, carried the Jews captive into Iraq.
16. Ezekiel preached in Iraq.
17. The wise men were from Iraq.
18. Peter preached in Iraq.
19. The �Empire of Man� described in Revelation is called Babylon, which was a city in Iraq!
And you have probably seen this one. Israel is the nation most often mentioned in the Bible. But do you know which nation is second? It is Iraq!
However, that is not the name that is used in the Bible. The names used in the Bible are Babylon, Land of Shinar, and Mesopotamia. The word Mesopotamia means between the two rivers, more exactly between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers.
The name Iraq, means country with deep roots.
Indeed Iraq is a country with deep roots and is a very significant country in the Bible.
No other nation, except Israel, has more history and prophecy associated it than Iraq.
And also... This is something to think about! Since America is typically represented by an eagle. Saddam should have read up on his Muslim passages...
The following verse is from the Koran, (the Islamic Bible)
Koran (9:11) - For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace.
(Note the verse number!) Hmmmmmmm?! God Bless you all Amen !
Know has figured it out. Dummies, While we are on here depating rights and wroung of religion we are missing the fact the every day not so innocent people are commiting gross crimes against all humanity!
Damit wake up, this war is a war about power not faith or religion because if the wroung people remin in control all of humanity loses. What do you really have to hold on too? Your claim to following a religion that you have retarded and distorted to push you lack on tollerance. People wake up! Wake up ! If good people fall into disputes about the small stuff we will be to blind to realize that all of our freedoms are being snatched away from us and innocent people are dying globaly in the process. Stop the petty bickering and stand up and fight in a real war that will stop the oppression of humanity! I dare you to pick a side those who are for the promotion of peace or those who want to say peace is relative to whoes getting oppressed today!
The Mother of 7
in Ohio
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 | 10:29 PM
I Apologize for the typos, I cant type to well when I'm angry
tue
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 | 10:41 PM
sleepup You have been Fooled by your religious teachers!! First of all Jesus said quite clearly you are not to have any religious teachers (and no Churches ect.) but him and the (I AM) You are suppose to have a personal relationship with (I AM). Jesus made this quite clear NO Priests Ect. Look we have been all fooled by these teachers. The important part of the Bible is there. We are suppose to be Brothers and look what these Lying religious teachers have done to us!!5:8. And (always) remember the favour of "I AM" unto you, and His Covenant (in the Bible), which He ratified (confirmed) with YOU (Moslems), when YE said: "We hear and we obey": and fear "I AM", for "I AM" knoweth well the secrets of your hearts 5:13. "I AM" did aforetime make The Covenant with the Children of Israel, and We appointed twelve captains among them. And "I AM" said: "I am with you: only if ye establish constant prayer; practise regular charity; believe My Apostles; honour and assist them; and loan to "I AM" a beautiful loan; then verily I will wipe out from you your evils, and admit you to Gardens with rivers flowing beneath; but if any of you, after this, resisteth faith, he hath truly wandered from The Way of Rectitude." (The Covenant - The Song of Moses). 5:16. O People of the Book! There hath come to you our Messenger, revealing to you much that ye used to hide in the Book (Bible), and passing over much (that is now unnecessary - the ceremonial rituals and sacrifices that were only a school-teacher to bring men to Christ - 6:154. Moreover, We gave Moses the Book (Torah), COMPLETING [Deuteronomy 4:2] (Our favour) to those who would do right, and explaining ALL things IN DETAIL,- and a GUIDE and a MERCY, that they might believe in the meeting with their Lord.
6:155. And this (Torah) is a Book which We have revealed as a BLESSING: so follow it and be righteous, that YE may receive mercy
6:156. Lest YE should say: "The Book (Torah - The Covenant) was sent down to two Peoples before us, and for our part, we remained unacquainted with all that they learned by careful study:"
6:157. Or lest YE should say: "If the Book (Torah - The Covenant) had only been sent down to US, we should have FOLLOWED its guidance BETTER than they (Sura 32:23)." Now then hath come unto YOU a clear (Sign) from your Lord,- and a GUIDE and a MERCY: then who could do MORE WRONG than one who rejecteth "I AM"'s Signs (and Torah - Bible), and turneth away therefrom? In good time shall We requite those who turn away from Our Signs, with a dreadful penalty, for their turning away.
16:91. Fulfill the Covenant of "I AM" (in the Bible) when ye have entered into it, and break not your oaths after ye have confirmed them; indeed ye have made "I AM" your guarantor; for "I AM" knoweth all that ye do; say and think.
tue
Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 | 10:44 PM
32:23. We did indeed aforetime give the Book (Torah) to Moses: be then NOT IN DOUBT of its (The Torah) reaching (THEE): and We made it a Guide to the Children of Israel.
57:25. We sent aforetime our Apostles with Clear Signs and sent down with them the Book (Torah) and the Balance (of Right and Wrong) (The Covenant), that men may stand forth in justice and We sent down Iron, in which is (material for) mighty war, as well as many benefits for mankind, that "I AM" may test who it is that will help, unseen, Him and His Apostles (Thy Will be done): for "I AM" is Full of Strength, Almighty (and able to enforce His Will). "Dear Muslims,
God continues to punish those who disobey Him, as He has promised to do in His Holy Koran.
In the Koran God has told those people who are "True in Faith" that they must, if they can afford to, make a "Pilgrimage" to Abraham's Station (Mt. Moriah) in the City of Peace/Salem - Jeru-Salem (Sura 2:124-126), where Abraham offered to sacrifice his miracle son, Isaac, to God (Genesis 22 v 1-2).
God has told you to visit this "Holiest of Holy" places so that His people would "lay to heart" what Abraham did and follow his example (Sura 2:124 God made Abraham an example/imam to all of his children).
Abraham proved, at Mt. Moriah, that he loved God more than EVERYTHING on Earth and that he believed ONLY God and thereby became the "Friend of God".
You too have to go there, so that YOU can remember what Abraham did and be willing to do the same (Abraham is the example to his children - Sura 2:124-126), and believe and serve ONLY God. This was repeated by God to Moses in the Ten COMMANDMENTS and is the FIRST and most important of all the COMMANDMENTS - that you LOVE God with ALL your heart, ALL your soul; ALL your mind and Him ONLY shall you serve. That means keeping only His Laws and His Covenant (Sura 16:91).
God also told those who are "True in Faith" to turn their face to Abraham's Station (Mt. Moriah) when they pray.
Therefore, those people who pray facing Mecca and go there on Pilgrimage are NOT "True in Faith" (Muslims) because they are dis-obeying God and His Koran and are, instead, obeying the Meccans and their Hadith.
IF these people had been doing God's Will (Islam) they would not have been killed because they would have been in Jerusalem not in Mecca.
Abraham's Station is on Mt. Moriah in JeruSALEM, it is NOT in Mecca, because God says so.
When will you learn to obey ONLY God, as Abraham your example did - faithful Abraham.
If you don't, you will ALL die, soon, as God has told you repeatedly in His Koran and it is My duty to remind you before it is TOO late. The choice is YOURS." "The Hadith has become the Talmud of the moslems and was condemned by God, in the Koran which says that God has gone to all the trouble of writing the Koran so that YOU can understand it, yourself if you read it and DO what it says, which is to read the Bible as well as the Koran and to pray IN PRIVATE, which is exactly what Christ said in Matthew 6 v 6, whereupon God will ANSWER YOU, and teach YOU what He wants you to do - "God's Will" (Islam in Arabic)"JAH http://www.anycities.com/jahtruth//comand.htm Matthew 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and WHEN THOU HAST SHUT THY DOOR, pray to thy Father in private; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. Sura7:55. Call on your Lord with HUMILITY and in PRIVATE for "I AM" loveth not those who trespass beyond bounds.
But this DOES remind me of the scene in "Dogma" where Chris Rock says "I am sent by He who is called I AM."
And then nobody has a clue who he's talking about.
The Mother of 7
in Ohio
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 06:11 AM
With the name of G'd The Merciful Benfactor, The Merciful Redeemer
The belivers must win through,
Those who humble themselves in prayer,
who avoid talk,
who are active in deeds of charity,
Who abstain from sex.
Except with those joined to them in th arriage bond, for they are free of blame,
But those whoes desires exceeds those limits are transgressors;
Those who faithfuly observe their prayers;
These will be heirs, who will inherit paradise.They will therein
Quran 23 1-12////
The Mother of 7
in Ohio
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 06:28 AM
With the name of G'd Merciful benefactor Merciful Redeemer
All praise be to G'd The Lord of the Knowing
Merciful Benefator Merciful redeemer
Master of the day of Judgement
It is you alone we worship and you alone we ask for help
Guide us on the straight way the way of those on whom you have bestowed your grace those whoses is not wrath nor go astray
Quran the opening chapter
Israel in the bible was the name given to Jacub after he repented therefore i as a muslim have been taught that when Quran speaks of the children of Israel we should not be so narrow minded to see only the Jews but we should see all who have become repented.
Oh children of repentance call to mind the favor I bestowed upon you, and be not the first to reject faith therein, nor sell My signs for a small price. And fear Me and Me alone.
And cover not the truth with falsehood, nor concel the truth when you know
And be steadfast in prayer Practice regular charity and bow down your heads with those that bow down.
do you enjoin right conduct on the people and forget yourselves,and yet you study the Scriptue?will you not understand?
No, seek help with patient perserverance and prayer, it is indeed hard exceot to those who bring a lowly spirit,
Who bear in mind the certainty that they are to meet thier Lord and that they shall return to him.
Katherine
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 06:32 AM
Wow, look at all the pretty flames! How did I never see this topic before?
This email makes no sense...even if the Tower of Babel and Noah's Ark and all that sort of thing were historically real and did occur in Iraq, that has nothing to do with anything! The first part of this email ("oooooh, look at all the things the Bible supposedly says about Iraq!") and the second part ("oh no, there's a [probably fake] prophecy in the Qu'ran about the war!"), bear absolutely no relation to each other...
The Mother of 7
in Ohio
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 06:44 AM
Tue if Juresulum was where G'd wanted us to make pilgrimage the Prophet with whom G'd entrusted with his book would have gone there yet instead wars were fouhgt over the right to pray at the house of fauth the Abraham built in the land that he prayed for.
Quran 2:125 Remeber We made the House a place of assemblyfor men and a place of sagety. And take the station of Abraham as a place of prayer. And We covenanted with Abraham and Isma'il that they should sanctify My house for those that compass it round,or use it as a retreat,or bow, or prostrate themselves.
2:126 And remember Abraham said, My Lord, make this a City of Peace, and feed its people with fruits, such as them belive In G'd and the last day He said,and as such as reject Faith, for a while will I grant them their pleasure, but soon will drive them to the torment of Fire, an evil destination!
2:127 And remember Abraham and Isma'il rasied the foundation of the House: "Our Lord Accept from us, for you are the All-hearing the All-knowing
Oh, and as for the website listed by "tue", here's a good quote...
"H.M. GOVERNMENT
+HEALTH WARNING+
Breaking The 12 (10+2)
COMMANDments
SERIOUSLY damages YOUR health"
And the page was written by JAH himself. Woo!
Nice of god to revise his major rules via the web, now isn't it?
Do they have WindowsXP in heaven? I seriously doubt it, they wouldn't want to pay cash directly into satan's pocket. You know, with ol' Gatesy being the antichrist and all...
Wow, RThis subject is back. I am actually impressed by whoever Mother of 7 and Tue is.
I'm allways up for a good religious talk, but my GOD, lets not place sooooo many bible passages here, most of us will not read everysingle one, we get the point.
My belief's are very simple cause nowadays, I refuse to put so much energy to religious Jib Jive.
Here they are: "Religion has been the most profitable thing ever. Feeding off of someones beliefs is the easiest way to make a "Buck" or if you live in Canada, "a Loonie", HA!! The ones that are in Power this very day know this. Whether there is or isn't a GOD or Jesus, or whoever, It allways comes down to Power, Money, and control. I refuse to give into such prehistoric beliefs.
christian
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 | 09:02 AM
I was actually refering to the Talmud when I used the word crap. I dont really know much about Michener but I am very careful when I read books written by zionist on Islam. The purpose of their "scholarship" is to find ways to start conflicts between us and Muslims. For over 100 years now, jews always wanted Christians and Muslims to engage in wars to weaken them.
If you want to know, just read the Talmud, the book of hate and war.
I didn't see you use the word "crap" in your previous posts, C, but maybe I missed it.
Of course the jews wanted these two groups to fight against each other. One of these groups (guess which one?) just happened to be killing the jews using somewhat the same reasoning you are using. If someone was trying to kill you for no good reason, would it not make sense to try and divert their attention elsewhere?
I disagree whole-heartedly that the purpose of the Talmud is to start conflict between muslims and christians.
It was not meant for christians or muslims to follow, so how would it start a conflict?
It's kind of funny, though, you spouting off about hate and war, when you said, and I quote you here, "It should baned and everyone and all those who follow it will need to disapear from the face of this planet before we can have any peace."
Ever heard of the miracles in the Quran?
For those who do not believe in God and yet believe in the Big Bang theory.
There's a site where u can download videos about the miracles in the Quran, and alot more about science and religion (Islam).
Know has figured it out. Dummies, While we are on here depating rights and wroung of religion we are missing the fact the every day not so innocent people are commiting gross crimes against all humanity!
