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DNA Perfection ??
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Posted By:
Archana Padhye
Jun 28, 2004
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A site by Toby Alexander :
http://www.dnaPerfection.com
claims about something like remote DNA Activation!! I searched web about the authenticity about the said things but could find nothing!
Can anybody throw light upon ?
Thanks.
Category: Scams; Replies: 394 |
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Mitch K
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 | 01:22 AM
Thanks for the link Myst. I took a look at it, looks very interesting. Will read more tomorrow 'cause it's time to retire my computer, and myself as well.
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Bee
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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 | 06:59 AM
where does trust come into things? we want to believe in something or someone... when someone says they care ,we believe what they say until we get burnt... the problem is do you then judge the rest of the world on that bad experience?? do you decide to never trust again??? no and thats what makes us human... it is one to be wise and cautious,but we only learn from bad experiences ... people who laugh at idiots as you put it were probably idiots once themselves and if not will be in the future....
this site is for people to share there stories or views..they dont come here to be judged by others.... there is nothing wrong in being naive in this world and those who pass judgement should look closer to home before belittling others.... i myself thought toby's site interesting,but it is my opinion that enlightenment of the soul should be knowledge that is freely shared... i dont believe there is any short cuts and i think that toby interfering with other people's karma wrong... it is one thing to inform people and help guide them,but another to say they can erase past or present mistakes with an eraser to obtain a short cut ..i dont think its even a loop hole the the great plan of life..i just think it bull shite. Practice makes perfect ...so if that means making the same mistakes until we break the cycle then so be it... until we understand our errors ..only then do we learn and grow... some of us may learn alot faster...the point is we get there eventually.....
you can lead a horse to water ,but you cant make it drink... We can only advise and guide ,the decision is up to each individual
mark n jen you cant live everyone elses life for them,just concentrate on your own and rather than slag off others.. try giving them some helpful advise.. .. stop casting stones like you have authority |
travolta_1972
in USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 | 08:43 AM
I am taking time to post this because I think most of you (especially this Mitch character and Sohera) need to take a second and look at how much time they are wasting. If you spent a fraction of your time and energy trying to improve your live's you wouldn't be out here trying to ruin the reputation of Toby Alexander. I have PERSONALLY known Toby for almost a decade. He and I worked together and were the best of friends. I introduced him to his wife. Whether or not you believe what he is trying to do is irrevelant. He isn't out there raping people, causing harm to people or causing ills to society. He is trying his best to help complete strangers with their problems. Whether or not he succeeds is not the point. I don't see the backlash against the tens of millions of priests in churches across the globe!! Where is the proof of what they are preaching? They are helping people in their own way just like Toby is. If you don't get any internal peace out of a session with him move on to another medium. At least you are taking the time to try to improve yourself. Stop bitching about your problems and do something to help others. |
bee
in uk
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 | 09:49 AM
Mr Travolta......
Does toby feel the need for you to defend him.... ive written a few post on here and im not out to personally slay him for what he does...because hes partly on the right path... i work all hours god sends to make a living to support my children.. but when it comes to helping others.. i have been freely giving my time all my life ...and in life there is no quick fixes or short cuts and thats what makes life so fresh and exciting ..the good and the bad are to be embraced and loved,when we embrace all we are whole and life smiles on us..... and karma is our path to enlightemment and the joy of life is walking the path with others and sharing our stories ,that we all get something far richer from our encounters.. then we then share with many others... multi level enlightenment..... the time is now to spread the light of life... and charging for knowledge makes us ignorant... toby may have paid for his in the past... but how does he grow from there ... its like having a loaded gun ,but not knowing how to use it.... the gun will eventually back fire on him |
bee
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 | 09:56 AM
Blessed be the love and light of all ,shine and share .... the teacher and the student ..the student and the teacher ,freely share the knowledge of the universe, contained within the soul
xxx |
travolta_1972
in usa
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 | 12:24 PM
Actually I haven't spoken to Toby in over a year. I do follow his new career though and just happened to have another friend forward me this site where people vent their frustrations. I agree that one makes their own happiness and nothing comes easy/free in this world. I think Toby has been introduced to others who have made it their life mission to attempt to help others. I'm sure many think this is similar to Amway or other scams but I have known this guy for years and he is very sharp. He is not a doctor but I do believe he has devoted 110% of his time and energy to help others. Before he ever got into this new business he was universally known to friends and family (and strangers) as doing whatever he could to help folks out. He was always very deep and would sit for hours helping talk through "issues" that others had. I think this is his way of trying to help others. If it works for some that is great. If it doesn't work for others that sucks. I have zero vested interest in any of you or him. I just thought it was silly that people get so wrapped up in what he does and no one makes any fuss over priests, psychologists and other folks who attempt to help you out for a fee. good luck to you all. If I had a problem I would call Toby but I wouldn't necessarily ask him for any of these services. I'd simply ask my friend for advise. |
Nick
in Merrie Olde Englande
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 | 01:22 PM
this all looks a bit heavy. can anybody give me a nutshell of whats going on? |
ChessCleopadre
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 | 01:38 PM
travolte , who assure us that you aren't toby himself ? |
Mitch K
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 | 11:59 PM
Travolta_1972,
If you really do follow your friend's new career, you should have noticed that this forum has actually helped Toby Alexander to refine his calling, as he's stated the following:
"I have realized recently that the real purpose of my practice is to focus on helping a specific group of people, called Indigo children, awaken to realizing their own true reasons for incarnating here and then quickly removing their blockages by doing these sessions."
Well then, do you still believe Travolta_1972 that my time and others has been really wasted?
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swp
in Earth
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 | 04:11 PM
The truth is here |
Mark-N-Jen
in Midwest USA
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 | 08:10 PM
Dear Bee & Mitch,
BOO-HOO... your money is gone because YOU were foolish with it. NO ONE made you give it to him... you chose to do so. I can laugh all I want at it... because it's funny!  I never blamed anyone for falling for it... as some people are more susceptable to such scams than others. What got me riled, and ranting, was the fact that the poor little woman wants us all to join the bandwagon of helping her get a refund because her CHILD needed the money for winter clothes, school uniform, etc, etc. ANY PARENT who spends NEEDED funds on ANYTHING as unproven and uncertain as this deserves what they get... that was an IDIOTIC move made by a BAD parent! FACT. Sorry if that doesn't go very far towards contributing to the overall "touchy touchy feel-good" status of the globe! But someone needs to tell that mother to get some COMMON sense and do what's right by her child FIRST and then explore experimental options for herself! You're contributing to that poor childs' crappy childhood by telling her it wasn't her fault and it's all O.K. You should be ashamed as much as she should be... who's going to feed that poor child when this woman spends their grocery money to buy X-ray vision or something? YOU? I doubt it, which is exactly why you shouldn't sugar-coat it for anyone... I suspect you probably contributed a little money to the Toby Alexander salary fund as well... At least learn a life lesson here Sohera, Mitch, James, and all others... Yeah maybe I was a little harsh in my laughter... I'm still chuckling over this... but you derserve to be chuckled at... Can you seriously tell me that you haven't laughed your butt off at some of the scams other people have fallen for... ALEX? There's tons of humor to this site... but making your child go without, especially in winter, so you can EXPLORE an EXPERIMENTAL THEORY is darn near neglect and needs to be said. There's enough other scam victims already patting her on the back and telling her it's not her, or their's or whoever's, fault... so I thought I'd be the voice of reason / common sense / scientific education here and tell her to WAKE-UP before her CHILD suffers irreversibly! So there... PS - Still smiling over this... can't believe he ever made a DIME! |
Bee
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 | 02:44 AM
MARK & JEN
For your information,ive never parted with any money to toby as i dont need what he has to offer,i simply am against him charging people for what he does,whether it works or not.... its does not make that woman a BASD MOTHER as you put it... get things into context... she made a mistake.. maybe she put such info down to try and make toby feel guilty... put him on a guilt trip ..who can say... but and i mean but.... it certainly isnt your place to verbally abuse her .. your no better.. oh cynical one.... where's your compassion???? everyone in life is prone to make mistakes..thats how we learn... rest assured she's more than learnt her lesson..she learnt the hard way..and she does not need you throwing it in her face .... next time you make one..i hope someone is there to rub your face in it...
if i remember correctly..it was toby that said the vibration here must be low, well with the likes of you .... he must be partly correct....
mark & jen ...jen & mark ... who ever the mind thats behind the words you write GET A LIFE !!! |
Winona
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 | 11:14 AM
And a guilt trip is a good idea on how to get something from someone. Jeez! That is one of my pet peeves, people who fail to admit the mistakes they made, and also then try to force people (guilt trips etc) into making it better FOR them.
I'm glad they posted that. I was thinking the same thing. I'm a parent too, and I will damn well make sure that my child had what he needs before I go blow my money on something that is not a necessity. (And DNA Perfection ain't sweetie. Not when you have a child to make sure is fully fed, clothed etc.)
This is so stupid, grow up and take responsibility (those who got hosed). Admit you wasted your money and move on. If I paid my money to someone who said they could help me see Snuffleupagus, and I didn't, I wouldn't ask for my money back... because *I* would be stupid to do it in the first place. |
Lenny Teytelman
in Berkeley, CA
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 | 09:29 PM
A friend of my just e-mailed me a link to the dnaperfection web-site. I read it and laughed, forwarded it to my co-workers. I found it hysterical until I realized that it isn't a joke and that Mr. Alexander is actually profitting from this.
I am a graduate student in molecular biology, and I have devoted several years to studying DNA, the "junk DNA", and the regulation of genes. I have actually isolated DNA from cells, analyzed it, sequenced it, changed it, etc. While there is much that is still not known about the cellular mechanisms, I know enough to see how much random nonsense Mr. Alexander has written on his web-site.
Since I am busy with classes, teaching, and research, I cannot devote hours of my time to debunking all of the material on that site. I will just give a very simple example of why the information is really mis-information. Mr. Alexander writes, "Scientists acknowledge that we currently only use 3% of our current 2 strand DNA..."
What exactly does this mean? What is junk? What does it mean to use only a fraction of the DNA?
There are portions of our DNA that encode proteins, and these regions are called genes. It is true that genes are only a small percentage of our total DNA content. The rest of the DNA does not make proteins, and unfortunately, up to a few years ago, some scientists called it "junk." That is a really bad term, and we now know that much of the DNA that is outside of the genes is not junk at all and is actually crucial for our survival. If you think about cellular activity, it isn't enough to just make proteins. You need to regulate how much of each protein should be made and when. For your skin cells to be different from the the eye cell, different proteins must be present in different amounts. The DNA outside of the genes is key in regulating this and controlling what is made and where.
Just because scientists have not yet figured out what every position in a human DNA does, it does not mean that the position is "deactivated." Simply because we do not know what a given protein does, we cannot assume that the protein does nothing. As of now, it is accepted that many of the regions outside of genes are critical for cellular function and life. They are not junk, and they are not inactive. Therefore, it makes no sense to claim that someone can turn these regions on for you. What does it mean to turn them on? They are already on in the sense that they regulate which genes function and in which cells.
My sincere advice would be to save your money. Instead of wasting hundreds of dollars on this charlatan, spend $20 to get a used biology textbook and learn about DNA and why it is truly fascinating. An alternative suggestion - get a pair of hiking boots and go for a good hike. Either one will prove to be more stimulating, enlightening, and rejuvenating that anything Mr. Alexander can offer. |
john kirckpatrick
in oregon
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 | 07:19 AM
I think that is time to promote an international organism for regulating internet pubblication activity, sites like dna perfection and other should bu submitted to an expert group and , the informations presented should be verified with objective results. A lawyer could prevent the pubblication of the site and a strong and legal policy of refund granted.
There are far too many sites that are really scams on they often don't give refunds.
last year a site about a growing taller pill was close by the royal investigation society in england i think that is time now to shut them all.
Anyway i think that some jail could sto people thinking about scamming 10-15 years is enough for Toby |
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA
Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 | 12:17 PM
If Government is in charge of the internet...wouldn't that be the biggest hoax of all?? |
Silentz
in general
Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 | 03:34 PM
Something for you bashers to think about. Whether you believe that DNA activation works or not is irrelevant. I'll explain.
I practice Reiki(also something that you may or may not believe works). My father is one of those that does not believe in spiritual or "supernatural" phenomenon. He was out to visit me several years ago. He has trouble with indigestion at times that makes him very uncomfortable. I offered to do Reiki for him, and he figured it couldn't hurt, so allowed it. He got a funny look on his face and said "Huh, it feels like things are moving around down there." Later he asked me whether I thought it was Reiki that helped his indigestion or it was his mind making his body do something with me just there.
The point I made was this. Who cares? If something works for someone, who cares why or how it works for them? Some people's lives are improved by "DNA activation". If it took $100 or whatever for them to feel like they got something in return, who are any of us to judge? You are free to have opinions about whatever you encounter, but just because you don't believe something doesn't make it fake OR real.
I wouldn't pay money for DNA activation because I don't believe it would do anything, but I won't judge anyone that does. If it improves anyone's life then it is of value, at least to that person. And that should be enough. |
Mark-N-Jen
in Midwest USA
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 | 03:51 PM
Dear Bee, I beg to differ but YES I am better, VERY much better, always have been and always will be because as I stated before... As a parent, who like one always should, I put my chldren and their needs FIRST! As for learning lessons... why don't you learn to spell learned. (Hint: Learnt isn't correct, maybe you'll find the correct answer in my response to you... but I doubt it) If she didn't want me "throwing it in her face" that she's a POOR parent then she should do her whining on a private and not public forum. Free speech baby... I can rant all I want. Someone needs to rant at her a little before her next scam costs her child it's food, as I stated before. Are you a parent Bee, because I do have things in context. Spending money needed by your child on an unproven "theory" DOES INDEED make you a POOR PARENT and bad example. It's just like spending your families grocery money on lottery tickets, foolish and unwise to the point that it's neglectful to those depending on you. Especially if they're children! Be an adult, do what's right first when it comes to children. It's not like he offered to sell her a car that ended up being a lemon! (acceptable and common mistake) She was trying to enhance her DNA for christ's sake! Nevermind the countless years of science before us... let's spend money needed by our family on STUPID SHIT! Lastly, I'm not trying to live anyone's life for them... if I were I'd take that child from her and raise it right. This is a public forum... do you understand those words or the concept that accompanies them? I doubt it... I have a life babe... and in it I don't throw away my children's money on shit like X-ray vision, DNA enhancement, or flying carpets. :(
PS - Thank you Winona for being a voice of reason among the many STRANGE posts I've seen on this thread!  |
Projectmayhem
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 | 08:21 PM
After perusing the site in question, it has become apparent that Toby Alexander has less than no clue about biology, chemistry, or histroy. I recommend those willing to give Mr. Alexander your hard-earned $400 donate it to charity, or blow it on a weekend to a casino. Really, you'll get more enjoyment out of it. As a student of Biochemistry, I can tell you with absolute certainty that there is a 5 DNA base, it's called Inosine, and it's used interchangably with a couple of the others. As for the 12 stranded DNA, the replication of that would take in excess of several months, and the amount of bases required for proper replication (think sperm, millions upon millions per day) would consume an ungodly amount of energy. Basically mastubation would make you pass out. Those looking to reach enlightenment should pick up Buddhism, or if you've got more than $400, give Scientology a whirl. I hear they'll let you fly in private with no one else around for about $500,000. Pseudo-science is not a religion, it's a cult. |
swp
in Canada
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 | 05:28 PM
Silentz, Reiki is not " something that you may or may not believe works". Reiki is bullshit. It doesn't work. That isn't a "belief" it is a proven fact.
You are self-deluded.
Harm can come from believing things that are not true. So, sure the placebo effect worked here and made some people feel better, but there was a greater cost. |
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