VOR,
You have been calling yourself an idiot in front of the monitor and now you are teaching others to do it! Amazing enlightenment!
Knight
in Austin, TX
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 | 08:36 AM
The way to enlightment is through ourselves, if Toby can awaken himself why can't we? There should be no short cuts. If we are to achieve a better understanding of the great infinity of the comos we should look in ourselves. Now paying 100 or so bucks to get there is a small price to pay don't get me wrong. But doing something on your own can be all the more gratifing. I know there are those who have acheived a better understanding to certian stages of enlightment by being 'given' enlightment. But they were corrupted by their own power of their subconscious and natural greed. I have always felt out of place in the world there's no mistaking that. I search for an answer and always look for power. But to achieve a higher touch of the world around you is to analyze and understand it.
Humans have barely begun to touch the surface of the infinity of the cosmos. And looking within us for the capacity to search for that understanding is a good way to go. But if I am to achieve a higher state of mind, I'd do so through myself. I've always felt a 'barrier' of sorts blocking me from my power. And what Toby writes about suits the logical explaination for why I cannot touch that power. But what power I have been able to touch is what I got through blood, sweet and tears. And there's nothing more gratifying than that. So if we truly seek a understand to enlightment we must start in ourselves by ourselves.
MaryY
in USA
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 | 08:47 PM
I just want to say thank you to all the people who have posted on this subject to try and get through to others that the notion of DNA activation is false. I have been a seeker all my life and have been bothered the past several months by someone trying to contact me about this. I have avoided contact but as fate would have it, I met someone else who again tried to get me into this nonsense. We had been sharing our intuitive impressions of many things, and when she asked me what I felt about this DNA activator, I told her I felt this person would try to sell me an expensive activation and try to entrap me into the whole thing. She told me she had met the woman and indeed, she is out several hundred bucks now. I am moving to the "cradle of civilization" where this person is supposedly going, and quite frankly, although I feel going will be a spiritually enhancing experience, I was afraid that rather then helping me to be attuned, this person would hinder me with their agenda, financial and otherwise. It has been disturbing to see this kind of thing going on. Red flags and warnings should be going up when someone claims (for a fee!) they can open you up spiritually. That is nonsense! If anything worked or helped anyone, it was because that person had done all the work themselves and the "activation" gave them a kind of seal of approval or permission to manifest their own spiritual fruits. What we need to progress is available to us by natural means, and we didn't need someone else (for a fee) to allow us our own growth (or to help our DNA functioning) for millions of years before, so why now? People are buying into it because they think they can get attainment and a great spiritual high - quick - in this high speed world. What sickens me is that these activators are masquerading as having a special power to give a person what they already possess. A big ego boost for them. They hide behind Big Vocabulary and nonsensical verbiage, fly in the face of scientific facts, and say that people aren't "ready" to understand, that they aren't in the right spiritual place to "get it" and all that garbage. That is so wrong. I just hope that anyone who is reading this who has been hurt or felt less by not buying this or by having tried it and did not get any effects, and was told it was your fault because you weren't prepared and whatever long-winded explanation was given to you, that you will realize it is total nonsense and all spiritual growth, energy, and healing, etc...of the highest orders are your birthright by being alive and having a soul and all you need to do is ask and have a loving heart...to the higher power and to yourself! There is no easy fix to make life perfect and surely there is a lot of great suffering on this planet, but no one should act like they are needed as a go-between because your DNA is not "activated" without them, that is completely false. People need to give themselves permission to be in a good spiritual place by themselves, because when someone else says you need them to get there, right away they are hindering you.
Sheetal Magan
in South Africa
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 | 04:48 AM
I have just recently had an auric clearing with Toby. He only sent me report three weeks later. At first i did not feel anyhting and felt stupid for being conned out of my money. But after a few days i had a strange fever without any other fluey items, i also started having the weirdest dreams and this strange obsession with jello - just ordinary packet jelly everyday. After a week or two these strange symptoms disappeared.
Then when i received the report and read through it, everything seemed quite accurate in terms of the ailmetns i was suffering from as well as the fact that the report was quite comprehensive spanning 5-6 pages long. To top things off he said that a good way to check if the auric clearing was successful was if you had a divine fever, which is the energy field burning off excess energy, strange dreams are often noted and furthermore(the most uncanny part) he recommended a clacium supplement to facilitate healing.. and the most readily available form of calcium is JELLO.
A little too uncanny for me.. I didnt really believe at first but after the strange co-incedences and the fact that i am beginning to feel more positive and powerful leads me to believe that its not all a hoax.
No other satisfied client of toby's has made a post on this site, everything else had been disatisfaction and speculation making it really an inaccurate account of the issue at hand.
JBK22
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 | 08:23 AM
Sheetal,
After 13 pages, now I do feel more enlightened on the subject. I am grateful for your amazingly insightful posts. Synchronistic indeed that the very positive experience insight that you were looking for turned out to your own direct experience, and now you offer that to others. You seem like a wise sage beyond your years....
To those on this forum who are not quite ready to imagine the scope of our human potential at this moment of unprecedented transformation, and are hindered by the limitations of the ego and the fallibility of perception, I offer the more scientifically minded of you this quote by Albert Einstein:
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his(her) eyes are closed"
In the next days, I too will schedule an appointment with Toby......It is an inexplicable inner resonance that I trust. I share your "question" that this spiritual vision can be used in direct material gain such as stock market,lottery etc., as I always felt that it would not align with the activation of our spiritual powers. Manifestation of abundance, yes. There is much I dont yet understand, however as a spiritual alchemist, with a progressing awareness, working within the human potential movement, It seems my spirit is ready. I say that because as I continue to learn about the subtle realms of energy, I wont be so apt to expect gross changes immediately, but more able to detect the subtle yet transformative shifts over time...or not. We who think of ourselves as spiritual scientists will experiment as we are pulled towards our destiny...
I am finishing my year doing medical aid work in Afghanistan, will return briefly to California before resting an healing in southern Thailand at a most special mystery school, I call a second home. I must add that having a passion for world travel, has currently place South Africa very high on my list. I have friends there and hope to visit in 2006. I understand that South Africa is becoming quite the magnet and vortice for leading edge healing arts and the emerging spiritual awareness that you speak of. I am so excited and I am already creating future memories of my visit. I look foward to seeing more posts from you as I check back from time to time over the next few weeks and Toby, if you are reading this....I will be in touch soon, and hope you can fascilitate me before Christmas.
Sheetal, thank you for your magic and the inspiration for me to leave these thoughts on this forum.
For everyone, I leave one final quote; unknown author: "You can not have a hearts desire without the means to fulfill it"......
Thank you so much JBK22 for you positive comments. You seem like a very wise soul yourself and i hope you have a fantastic time in South Africa when you come by..we look forward to it.
I started having very strange healing abilities at some point during this year but i am inexperienced and though my chakras did open i have no awareness of how to maintain that opening and i believe it did soon close. That said it stands to reason that people of all walks of life can be healers.
Toby has a business background and has acquired healing abilities. It is part of his make up. Also he is not the only DNA "Activator" that charges for his services, infact in my comprehensive search i did not find a single person who offered free services. Also Toby never said he would turn away those who could not afford it. In fact he said that he takes more and more people for free of late..
It disturbs me that he is isolated and ridiculed.And i think the fact that he presented himself on the site and tried to make his contribution does mean that he is not afraid. Also he appears with his wife on a clip on the soul wisdom website,yet again showing that he believes in what he is doing, he does not remain the anonymous con. He has also introduced that he is about to start doing video conferencing with his patients instead of just sending them email reports so that it is more personal.Why would he make this work the centre of his life and reputation if he was just a hoax? Would it not be easier to simply remain an anonymous phantom,stealing people's money?
Also we do not sit around condemning medical doctors, homeopaths, reiki masters or any other form of healer because they charge for their services even if those services may save lives.
We feel entitled to condemn Toby largely because we do not wholey except or understand his work. is largely a leap of faith and like all matters of faith you either believe or you do not. Some of us resonate with Toby and his work. Those who condemn Toby, especially those with a healing background - it just seems too narrow minded to be so opinionated.Who are we to judge the purpose of Toby's life or work and presume to know gods will?
I mean "Jesus would slap him"... really now.. Jesus didnt charge but he probably wouldnt judge just the same, least of all condemn. Money is just potentiality, even leading metaphysical doctors liek deepak chopra insist that spirituality is no longer about becoming immersed in spirituality and negating materialism but finding the balance in both.
MaryY
in USA
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 | 08:19 PM
I am also a healer and a channeler, I received my gifts directly from the Light as I was called and the gifts were freely given and received; I use my gifts the same in turn, as called - and I know what "I" give is not from me. That is part of the problem I have, those claiming the energy is coming from them. My higher self is the very self that feels there is something not quite right here.
It is possible to channel helping energy to wherever needed...looks like in this instance energy is being given to the DNA. What effect this has depends on the subject and upon the giver, especially if they are generating their own energy or transmitting Light that is not their own. In all cases those who are aware it is not their own make it a point to explain this, it is crucial, as it is pure and far above the personal energy. The personal energy contains personal intent and Light contains the intent of the Light which is beyond the human ability to comprehend.
So energy is given to the DNA, and subtle energy may be beyond scientific measure at this time, but science is getting closer. The idea that there are other strands affected not recognized by science is utterly unbelieveable and is probably not worth hanging onto as a concept. We must be grounded in the real world. The real and spiritual worlds are one in the same. What exists is axiomatically scientifically possible. These worlds cannot be divorced.
So there are three possibilities when giving personal energy to the DNA: 1. Nothing 2. Help 3. Harm - in my opinion this is very much like a shaktipat, if indeed it is not directly that, and it is laden with all the uncertainties of the same.
My point here is that this is not a miracle cure, it is an uncertain practice like everything else, only thing certain which I know of is the direct receiving of pure Light. So why is there this know-it-all attitude, when there should be cautious exploration and questions, questions, questions, as that is how we seek, right? And why are there all of these tiresome buzzwords and insider-only vocabulary instead of plain english when we are not sure why there are scientific contradictions and mixed results, and we are dealing with something uncertain that people would like to understand.
All the blaming or praising needs to stop and all the hard questioning and answering needs to start.
Sheetal Magan
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 | 01:22 AM
I have to admit that i do find his charges disturbing. It creates an immediate distrust apart from the New Age Concepts.Why charge at all? Possibly because you dedicate your every waking moment to your work? But then the arguement why not charge less? Toby claims to receive an email a minute.And i assure you his report from the auric clearing was very comprehensive and not as unoriginal as a previously unsatisfied client of his would have us believe with his postings on this site.
But i will not negate the possibility of it simply because i do not wholey understand it. For months i searched the internet tryig to find information about my experiences and only when my experience intensified did I come across Toby and his services became available.And i wholey believed it until i discovered this site and it embedded some doubt in my mind. But i'll admit it is not for everyone. IF you dont resonate with it don't try it, but if you do then i think that its a good idea to see if it works for you. I think the problem is also the claims he makes, instead of wildly magical powers he should admit that the activations are limited by individuality and individual spiritual development.
It might be a new age hoax,and if it is i am sure Toby will suffer dearly in due course for his actions, but entertain the magical possibility that it is sincere?
I personally can only report positive life changes since the auric clearing and a clearer perspective of reality. I was obsessed with a previous relationship that entailed betrayal and since the auric clearing i feel so free from it, that alone will have been worth all the trouble for me, because it was stunting me. Toby picked up on this and several other relevant things. I dont understand why anyone would go to so much trouble, reply to all my many many emails and questions without atleast sincere intent...Do you?
chuckiecow Member
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 | 07:21 AM
I have just purchased an auric clearing from Toby through Paypal, and am looking forward to the session with him.
I have to admit that at this point, I still have some doubt, but in general, I feel positive about his work.
In defense of him, and all other healers who charge a fee for their services, I think its only fair that they charge, especially people like Toby who do this full time. Think about it. How else are they going to feed themselves and keep themselves alive to continue to help other people with their gifts?
Zan Dazzil
in Jersey
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 | 10:44 AM
Forgive me for being ingnorant but...I've been doing a lot of searching on this DNA activation. I know many people that believe strongly in it. I however, do not. I can't find any scientific evidence that shows this is even possible. It's not my intention to convince anyone of anything. I would like to be convince my self though. I would love to believe that this kind of thing is possible. Really, I do. So Toby Alexander, if you're reading please help me out here. You stated (and I qoute) "I have done dozens of sessions for medical doctors, scientists, and even geneticists to 'prove' to them that it works". That's great, that's fantastic. Please, please share with us where they have posted their scientific findings. I'm dying to read about these studies. I'm sure any doctor, scientist or geneticist would be proud of their published studies regarding the validity of DNA activation. I can't wait to read all about it. In fact, the minute I'm finished reading I'm going to run right out and get my DNA activated. Oh, and by the way, you're an expert so I assume you also guarantee your work. After all, most professionals do.
Mitch K
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 | 05:12 AM
To Sheetal
I believe your insertion: "...a previously unsatisfied client of his would have us believe with his postings on this site." applies to me. If this is so, are insinuating that I have made something up, especially about Toby's reports?
The reports were actually vague, and after all disregarded even by Toby as being not important, after I had questioned his accuracy.
For those who would like to see for themselves and then judge eventually, I'm going to post the reports I received from Toby on the Internet, soon. I'll let you know.
And, by the way, Sheetal, your statements that law of karma would apply to Toby, are simply illogical, since being his advocate you must believe that he is en expert in removing such.
mk
Sheetal Magan
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 | 05:47 AM
Well in my experience they were comprehensive, am i now to negate my own experiences just because i am skeptical? (and believe me i still have my doubts)
You have your experience and i too have mine, but i cannot understand why your report would have been so vague, only toby would know and isnt that just the whole problem.
but matter of factly apart from the disapproval about his charges (which in many ways i support) i have not found any conclusive evidence that he is false either. So forgive me for being optimistic/naive and chosing to believer.
JBK22
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 | 07:09 AM
Sheetal,
A few thoughts to share. Most importantly, is that you do have awareness of how to maintain the opening that you have experienced. It is simple....be open and you shall remain open. Trust your intuition and begin to become comfortable with your power. It would not serve you well to believe that something soon closed. Your reality will mirror your thoughts....this you know well. Your awareness and opening is happening....allow it....be grateful for it.
The money dilemma is tricky. Our current monetary system is inherently problematic, however it is an expression of love energy when used correctly and most have a pretty dysfunctional relationship with money. Right intention and right livelyhood are Dharma concepts that resonate highly with me...I am not so concerned with these practitioners charging if right intention is practiced, but I feel that in order to take we must in turn give. We must volunteer, donate and serve. Keeping this balance....this flow, should insure that the laws of attraction will continue to provide us with all the abundance we can imagine. Only the individual knows in his or her heart what they are doing. For the rest of us, we must follow our intuition and our logic and make choices, some in the name of experimentation. Untill we evolve and transcend the current system, money is an inextricable part of our lives......this too will change. As far as How much? Well, there is something known as perceived worth which I think is valid.
Check out these two websites. I think you will find them interesting:
I really like the way this site is presented. It hits on a lot of concepts I resonate with. Im thinking of scheduling with them:
This second site really interests me. In fact for some time I have wanted to make a trip to S.Africa to find this woman. Perhaps you could investigate it and let me know what you find. I have a feeling about this. It might be very important for you and the information really provides a mirror perspective for you:
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Love and light, j
giove
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 | 11:51 AM
Hello Everyone,
I experienced Toby' four sessions last month and I definitely felt something during the sessions, spaciness, insomnia, more energy. I'd like to mention that when I found Toby' site last year, I was really going through intense inner hell, I had in mind to separate from my husband, I had difficulties at work, I had a huge issue with guilt, I was and still am going through the middle age crisis. Dna activation and these new healing techniques represented for me a tremendous hope, an elegant way out of emotional misery. I've always been a truth seeker and I have always sensed that there were more in life than what we can see. For me Theta Healing could very well have been a way to reconnect to Joy, Love and UNDERSTANDING of how things work and what is our purpose in this life. Well after hoping so much and after a lot of exitement and high expectations, I must admit that I am disappointed, I expected so much more, may be interesting dreams, may be having access to the universal mind, may be meeting my divine higher self, may be stop being that shy and insecure (I'm a bit like the "Bridget Jones" type, clumsy, shy and blond, you see what I mean but I don't like to be that way!!) may be laugh and take things easy. I expected such a grand trip and here I am with the same old me, with the same insecurities. What I gained may be is more confidence but even that is fragile, people and circumstances can still easily destabilize me. I think that Toby Alexander is sincere though, I am sure that he has special abilities and that he is truly willing to help others out but his reports did not touch my heart. I'm glad that some had positive experiences (like Sheetal), it proves that Toby is not a false healer, it proves that it works. Yes Toby Alexander seems to be a very young soul but this is not always a bad thing. And yes I think he is very expensive. Well my impressions are mixed, I am disappointed but I don't want to regard Theta healing as a big illusion. By the way BRIAN, how long did it take before you could feel some changes after your sessions??. That's my testimonial for now, I hope it will change.
mickeyB
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 | 02:58 AM
Go read The book children of the matrix
Alice in wonderland no one needs toby he is just an illusion keeps you in the game
Matt
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 | 01:59 PM
Hi everyone
I just wanted to say that this type of work is indeed real. The level of how it will help all depends on you because if you dont believe that it will work then you're creating energy blockages for yourself. I think it's better to learn the process and have a deeper understanding than to get someone to do it for you. Either one of those things will only be beneficial if you're ready. The truth resonates within your heart if you decide to listen to it. Our minds are very powerful tools, so much so that they have taken over. You are not your mind, you are something much much greater. It's all a matter of remembering that divine perfection that is all of us. Some people say that they're not "into it", it's only cos of a limited understanding of it all. Everyone is "into it" whether they like it or not cos they are alive. Honestly, if you start asking yourself the questions, the answers will come. Just try asking yourselves questions about life and uncover deeper meanings and understanding of it. Just try asking, what have you got to lose ?? Nothing and you have so so much to gain, you will achieve such an amazing sense of peace and joy. I know many of you have to see evidence before you believe, more often that not tho, seeing is not believing, believing is seeing.
With love and compassion.
Too often people can be hyper-judgmental!
Presently physisist`s believe that we perceive 10% of the known world (reality) through our five senses. In other words 90% of what is proven to exist we cannot touch, taste, hear, see or smell. Obviously with the invention of the microscope et al science has proven the existence of single-celled organisms, diseases, elements etc. That got me thinking- if we only perceive 10% of what we know exists, then including what hasn`t been discovered, how much of reality do we actually sense?
Now, to my anti-reiki/energy field friends, a proposition! Firstly, I am a law graduate, a man of facts> Roughly a year-and-a-half ago I went to a reiki attunement. A non-believer at the time, I decided to at least give it a go. To cut to the chase, I am now a Usui reiki master and I practice chi-kung daily. (Chi-kung is related to tai-chi and kung fu. 1 in 12 Chinese practice chi kung. Presently it is not widely known in the west, but is rapidly growing:)
My point is this- if you do not believe in this "energy-field hocas-pocas," (as I didn`t)then try it out! You may be pleasantly surprised. Commenting on what you do not know or havn`t experienced is foolish. I cannot prove any of this to you- it is beyond the mind, transcendental. You can only prove it to yourself! You cannot feel my inner-energy only your own. A wise man once said, every time you judge someone or an event you limit yourself- observe, research and study all you can, then make your judgment. It should be the last move you make.
In regards to Toby Alexander`s DNA activation`s, I don`t know if he is for real or not! However, many here are throwing stones without knowing if this works or not. From what I have read, many are angry about the price. Why doesn`t he do it for free etc? Think- if he carried out his services for free would anybody stay on his site for more than two minutes? If this actually works, then 400 dollars (or three nights on the beer) is miniscule.
So maybe this works and maybe it doesn`t, what a revolution if it does- how do we KNOW?
By describing them as vague, I meant that they're not really distinct. Otherwise they are quite impressive, they're fantastic.
In all four reports, there are only two, and questionable, references on a distinct side.
One contained in Auric Clearing Report, and the other in DNA Activation 1 Report (emphasis added):
"... it's great that we could get this cleared for you SO EARLY ON IN LIFE.", and
"...This will allow you to start accessing your higher sensory perception and should also increase your metabolism to help you LOSE WEIGHT."
However, that only made me more sceptical about the validity of the DNA Activation process.
VOR.