so you agree there is ELECTRICITY in the body, even if 50mV in cells is still a small amount. thanks for proving my point
There's very small amounts of radioactivity too, do you think you're nuclear powered then?
ELECTRICITY flows at the rate that electrons line up
Wrong, and it even says so on the very site you linked to. Electric current moves at less than the speed of light, but the propagation of the electro-motive force around a circuit occurs at the speed of light. (see definition of speed of electricity here.)
It is analogous to the speed of sound, sound moves a lot faster through the air than the molecules of air themselves move. Very much so in the case of A/C where the electrons wiggle back an forth but actually go nowhere (which by your definition would mean that A/C has a speed of 0).
i was talking about people not thinking there could possibly be a human energy field
Forget "human", just show me a physical example of an energy field. Force fields, I have a plenty - magnetic, electric, gravitational - energy fields not a one.
you believe in energy in the body
Yup, but it don't come in fields young twerp!
amadriel
in CANADA
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 | 10:21 AM
" Share not the mysteries to fools", or something like that the saying goes. If someone doesn't want to believe you, it won't matter what you say they won't change there minds. It's like talking to a wall.
In truth, energy work does work. I have had sessions( but they weren't with tobly they were with David Rapheal Issacsson )and have felt a great difference afterwards.
The only thing, not everyone is ready for certains things at the same time. There are certain poeple who expect miracles right away. But these things take time, hell it took me 7 years to get to the point that i am. To those who have been studying spiritual matters, while you know it takes years and years to gain some knowledge of whats going on, the 'newbies' or 'critics' do not.
There are many others out there who are closed minded or are just not ready for this at this time in there life. That doesn't mean there inferior or stupid, just not ready. Maybe later on they will be and if not well that's ok because that means that's how it 's supose to be for them.
Also, there is a question on mind here. Many things come into thought form before coming into the material plane so basically, if someone doesn't believe it will happen - it most likely won't for them.
And about the frequency thing, Toby was right, while reading some of the post i could sence the negativity before i got to his post.
To those who 'haven't ' had it and are insulting and criticising it, maybe you shouldn't. I mean, we can clearly see that you don't believe in it but just because you can't comprehend it or don't believe it doesn't mean others don't. Nor does it mean that your nescessary right either. If you don't believe it, good, it's your choice but don't go on insulting those who do. At least try to keep an open mind and acknowledge there opinion.
mich
in New Zealand
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 | 04:47 PM
HERE HERE!!!
Judgemental, critical, insults dont get you anywhere.
Jorod
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 | 03:51 AM
Wonderhelixes ACTIVATE!
Form of.. bullshit!
nightweaver
in Oregon USA
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 | 06:06 AM
I personally am not sure about the concept of DNA activation itself but the notions of multiple dimensions is interesting. Recently new scientific theories about the universe indicate that there is the possibility that several dimensions besides the 4 we know exist. I am refering to string theory. Brian Greene has written a book called "The Elegant Universe" that covers the subject in an easy to understand way. Basically it is an attempt to describe the building blocks of everything from the subatomic level on up. Very interesting because it tries to pick up where Einstien left off searching for the theory of everything. This theory fits with our current knowledge of how things work but implies the existence of several other interconnected dimensions that so far are not percievable to current technology. Maybe science and metaphysics are beginning to merge into a new understanding of everything. I am very excited by the implications of these ideas. What if we were able to achieve the level of understanding most of these sites describe. If the theory is correct it is possible. I believe our future holds some very big suprises for us. I will keep an open mind and accept the possibility that the evolution of human conciousness occuring. Changes are happening in the way people are looking at life in general very rapidly. Open your eyes and you'll see what I mean. Things are happening. The sunami earthquake, melting of the polar caps, weather changes are all signs that the Earth is changing, probably in ways we can't comprehend yet. I feel that a major change is happening on many different levels. I'm not predicting anything just observing what I see and feel. I have noticed dramatic changes in my self awareness within the past year. My food cravings have changed to more whole natural foods. I feel more connected to my inner self and more aware of things in my life that need to be changed. I have a desire to change the way I live into one more compatible with the Earth. We all need to take a hard look at ourselves and decide weather we are going to follow the natural laws of the universe or continue living as we do without fully understanding the consequences of the things we create. Hopefully I have inspired someone to open their mind a little and see things in a different way. I feel that everyone needs to discover the truth for themselves from the inside out....
harrus
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 | 03:22 AM
Hi everyone.
The website is a complete hoax. The author doesn't even have a rudimental grasp of basic physical and biological concepts. The part about the The body and the planet are built the same way - they both have a Kathara Grid. So when the Earth ascends into a higher dimensional, less dense matter state (from now until 2012), if you do not have a certain level of DNA activation and can tolerate the change in angular rotation of particle spin inside the atoms that make up your cells, then you will not make the transition.
is complete, utter BS. The angular rotation of particle spins happens all the time, whenever you apply an external magnetic field, particle spins will react to it. It's a completely natural an normal process which happens all the time. This is like trying to sell a magic glue to prevent you from falling off the earth.
I have a prediction for all of those who posted here and claim to believe and support this hoax. It said in the article the world will transform until 2012. I can predict two things right now with absolute certainty:
1. The world will not change as described.
2. Mister Alexander here will find a very flimsy excuse to explain why it hasn't changed.
Don't fall for this people. Hoaxes are as old as civilization, yet people continue to fall for it. Think a little. Try to actually use logic and common sense before spending real money on a complete fraud.
I'm chucklying as I read these posts. Just came across this forum while doing research (not on DNA activation)
Little background for you here. I'm a shaman and yes I do energy work, etc. BUT! and this is the truth, DNA activation does occur and it does it spontaneously in some people.
Looong, Looong, Looong time ago I was working with a woman who was friends with Vianna Stibnal (sp?)and she learned this technique right along with her as in side by side in another class or something like it. Anyways about the time I was learning about this I just HAPPENED to come across a book in Borders about this subject, it was dated in the 1970's I think...not sure.
Point to make is this, there is such a thing, no it did not originate with Vianna Stibnal, even if she says it did. All she did was take the idea and add her two cents and with some marketing gurus made a whooping fortune!
Now for those of you who are foolish enough to pay for this, know this, it takes all of a few minutes to do this and it can be taught very easily. If someone is offering this for a price it just means to me that they haven't worked on themselves enough to offer anything original to people.
It makes me really angry to see all these people being taken advantage of. If I'm doing energy work and I can see the DNA spontaneously activate then yes I will inform the person it did happen. They usually feel it happen. But I would never ever charge for this even though I do charge for my other healing services.
It's like anything else. There's nothing new under the sun. Just different names, different days, different places.
People are really getting hookwinked on this. If your DNA is supposed to activate, it will.
I really get rather sick of these new agey types pulling money from idiots.
I am a shaman and yes I do work on people but for heavens sake most of healing is just good old commone sense.
Eat right, sleep enough, take care of yourself and keep right by your fellow man and you'll do fine.
apologies for the spelling errors in the last post
I mean chuckling!
apologies for the rant too, maybe
I just get sick of all the people on the net pretending to be great healers
rubbish
this DNA pricey activation is about as good as the Indigo and Crystal Children stuff
oh too push so much fluff on an unsuspecting and ignorant public!
in all my years of working with people, never have I seen so much horrible abuse of energy or waste of money as all these DNA activation and Reiki sites
I wouldn't let a Reiki Master touch me with a 10 foot pole either!
sorry but I'm a died hard healer who believes in the power of a person to help themselves heal
sooner or later we all have to learn to lift ourselves up by our own bootstraps and not learn on people to do what we ourselves can do
Sally Jacobsen
Provo, Utah
Sheetal Magan
in South Africa
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 | 03:02 PM
I am a 19 year old indian female living in a little place called south africa, with a very liberal upbringing and exposure to vast socio economic conditions. If there are two things I have noticed it is that in South Africa our cultural dynamics force our perceptions to be fluid and open to change. Secondly younger people have received less conditioning and thier minds are adapting to change much faster than children centuries ago.One thing is certain - conciousness is evolving at a faster rate than ever before.The internet in itself is a phenomenon that allows for the freedom of exchange of information.The internet in itself was incoveible to many half a century ago, and now its is common place - perhaps DNA Activation will find the same fate.Change is an aspect of evolution and you need just look around you that if neither positive or negative change is happening fast. This is fact -
This comes with its obvious challenges. And it is no co-incedence that as spiritual enlightenment (the freedom of the mind) becomes a global pursuite forces which attempt to dominate the world(the illuminati, George Bush's government etc.) try desperately to secure the highest form of 3 - dimensional power - weapons of mass destruction.
I have had several self induced spiritual experiences, many very painful,and i most conclude that the potential of the mind which Toby proclaims is a definite reality.
As to whether his services are genuwine is another question entirely.But i must ask myself, considering we are all aware that this thread was sponsored by someone with an Agenda, why is it that Toby Alexander is singled out as we attempt to denounce DNA activation? It is obvious that this thread was not open simply to discuss the realities and possiblities of DNA activation but rather to expose/victimise Toby Alexander.
Furthermore those who seem to embrace DNA activation appear to be operating at more open minded frequencies and those who denounce it tend to be more agressive,intolerant,sarcastic and scientific(simply a thought system which demands 3D evidence as proof) minded.
What disturbs me about this forum is the obvious sense of rivalry between those both "higher" and "lower" frequencies. This is not a discussion but a tug of war on truth.After thirteen pages i still do not feel more enlightened on the subject and would call on more people with positive experiences to come forward and share. A truly satisfied client of Toby's would be most apt.
My question to Toby is that considering he was able to treble his income on the stock market in 2 months using remote viewing and DNA Activation allows one to materialise income(the man obviously has great affinity with power and material wealth and he is allowed this) - Why charge at all? I understand you require an income but why not "manifest' alterior means for this or simply charge less?
Many more would be willing to be activated...or is this perhaps Toby's ploy - to attract only those who resonate enough with his site to pay out...? Such a material dilemma for such a spiritual problem...strange indeed.
Sheetal Magan
in South Africa
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 | 03:23 PM
People with some level of awakening, who have experienced themselves as god will understand that the powers Toby Speaks of are very real possiblities. They would also understand that DNA Activation is then atleast a possibility if not a reality, furthermore that it is very likely that one could be given a purpose to activate others for the greater good. Thirdly the exclusivity Toby speaks of which seems to offend many may have a very real purpose. He is simply saying that it is importnat for him to activate as many people as possible and therefore it only makes sense that he activate only those who are ready.This is to ensure that conciousness on the planet evolves as fast as possible. Perhaps his fees are a way of ensuring that only those who are serious about activation will come forward.If it was a free service, every Tom,Dick and Harriette would be involved which could create a very real problem for Toby. Those who asked for refunds did not seem sincere or serious about spiritual growth but rather material gain.The fact that his services are widely available and for much cheaper certainly mean that Toby is not playing the good Business Man. Think about it - He would attract alot more fools with cheaper prices. No one would think twice about spending $20-$50 to save their souls. In fact more people would doubt using the service because of its higher pricing.
Its is undeniable that Toby's claims seem far fetched or revolutionary and yet the possibility is exciting. If you are serious abou your spiritual growth you would understand that even if Toby is gifted - he is not God, and if he is a hoax, by God he will be judged.
kath
in london
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 | 10:45 AM
is there anyway to activate dna -by myself without anybodys assistance?
words ,mantras ,cretain sounds -similar to that of kundalani??
please if anybody can POSITIVLY -assist me ,,
are the answers in the akashic records ----?
just need answers to many questions -
how can i astral travel ?
do the springs in the bed interfer with natural magnetics therefore interfering with oobes ?
what is that sound --those incredibly uncomtable feelings in body while lucid dreaming --but im awake --- paradox?
also inregards to physicall apperance changing with dna activation --my physical apperance changes when im in a hightend state of awareness due to substanc-people dont recognise me -
so i know its possible -
also regarding amazing sync - ive manifested some incredible events -through a mantra -
of perfect timing - always geting green traffic light ,always choosing the best food ,having a pic of my friend in new zealand and manifesting him -a boy i hadnt seen in 5years-
but still --
the auras ,the astral worlds ,the miltidimentional reality is not experinced as daily life -
therfore im in quest -for develpoment need answers -
please somebody who has attaind results in action as daily life please write -
thanks
Mitch K
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 | 11:03 AM
Many answers can be found at ascension2000.com
mk
mich
in New Zealand
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 | 06:05 PM
Hi there Kath.
you are obviously very self aware, you hold much faith also.I believe we are devinely guided -
"Ask & you shall recieve"
Oracle
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 | 04:21 AM
did anyone read david icke book
how do you know toby is not part of a conspiracy
Sheetal Magan
in South Africa
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 | 12:18 PM
Oracle - explain further.
Honestly i think that if Toby is a fake, well the law of karma does exist and it is inescapable, so let the universe sort him out.
And if he's true, i hope his work will work for me, I've just booked two sessios.
Kath - I have also experienced the phenomenon you're talking about interms of appearance.
I'd love to know more about you're practices.
Get in touch?
nick
in uk
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 | 01:06 AM
only truth is given freely
the only way to activate your dna is too see through the illusion of 3d
do not judge do not fear
just have respect and compassion for all life
understanding there is no good or evil
just polar opposites trying to balance within a three dimensional contextual construct
act and think from the heart
only through compassion will the illusion manifest
So the way to achieve DNA Perfection is to smoke a lot of pot?
nick
in uk
Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 | 12:56 AM
the way to achieve enlightenment is through love.
through thoughts and actions and experiences
there are no extra points for being smart with the mind
only a greater understanding-an attempt to get to that place where u aren't questioning
just living -just acting in a way that works for you
the only way to raise your dna/vibration is by acceptance of experiences , even experiences you don't like, without judgement
if you put up limits around something it will change and stay with you until you accept it for what it is,something you created and are having trouble getting past,once you embrace it and love it even though you know you don't like it-it will leave you and you will draw to you better experiences more in tune with the love you give off.that's how your dna/vibration/frequency raises by being accepting/including of all experiences from an understanding point of view- believe me i searched for this illusive enlightenement for nearly four years- and found you can only get there by changing you
try and love it all
this helped me - http://www.lcars.eu.org/sarah.peter.nelson/lazyman/lazyman.html
First timer here
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 | 09:32 AM
Hi everyone,
Interesting stuff. The first question I always ask of these 'spiritual people' like Toby is, why are they after $$? I emailed another such person and got a sacarstic reply. If they are sincere in wanting to help the earth and its ppl evolve faster, ask for donations. And I searched the Internet and could not find anyone doing it for free??? Conspiracy?
But does it mean theis DNA activation is not true just cos of these ppl?
VOR
in Earth
Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 | 07:34 AM
All those of you seeking enlightenment, may be interested in the following procedure. I swear I've found this to work. I promise the clouds will clear, your eyes will open and the truth shall be revealed.
It is as simple as this:
Apply your computer monitor to your forehead forcefully while repeating the mantra -- Eye Mann Ee Dyot
I can promise you, if you do this repeatedly, you will soon attain enlightenment.
To David B. and a few others: keep up the good fight; ignorance is a powerful enemy but not one, I hope, that cannot be overcome with patience and true education.
Btw, I provide this information freely. However, if you'd like to spend some of your hard-earned cash and achieve the same results, by all means, please send me a wire transfer or cheque or cash or heck, I'll even settle for a toaster oven
