#7: Alabama Changes the Value of Pi

The April 1998 issue of the
New Mexicans for Science and Reason newsletter contained an article claiming that the Alabama state legislature had voted to change the value of the mathematical constant pi from 3.14159 to the 'Biblical value' of 3.0. Before long the article had made its way onto the internet, and then it rapidly made its way around the world, forwarded by people in their email. It only became apparent how far the article had spread when the Alabama legislature began receiving hundreds of calls from people protesting the legislation. The original article, which was intended as a parody of legislative attempts to circumscribe the teaching of evolution, was written by a physicist named Mark Boslough.
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Easy tiger.!
I'm not sure where you get your 35hours and 2months, but remember that there's a whole world out there, with a wonderful proliferation of different timescales, work ethics and cultures.
There's no need to react defensively to comments like that - the ignorance of anyone submitted comments like that speaks for itself. Just don't lower yourself to their level.
Posted by notahothead on Thu Mar 31, 2005 at 09:30 PM
Americans really don't know do they?
Posted by Notamerican on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 01:58 AM
2 months holiday is a better idea than 2 weeks... whats the point of being the wealthiest country in the world when you all have to work yourselves so hard?
Oh, and re. all the comments about "How can the Brits be so dumb" regarding some UK April fools, pay attention to this entry... no religious morons here. You guys should really do something about those southerners.... secede? Take away their vote? How can you all put up with living in a country where over 50% of your people don't believe in evolution?
Posted by Spangles in UK on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 02:17 AM
Hey! I am kinda curious after this Dr. Dino mentioned in one of the previous post by EYESEE. I couldn't find the article, neither via the link nor on the site itself... Could you please check it, EYESEE?
Posted by jude in NL on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 04:19 AM
Eyesee is right. I'd bet if he didn't link to that article, you wouldn't have castrated him like you did. Typical nazi Ev
ilutionists.
Posted by The Yellow Dart on Sat Apr 02, 2005 at 10:45 AM
When working with cubits, which are rather lagre, and metal in that time, it would be much easier to make a "circle" with a "diameter" of 10 and "circumference" of 30 than to make a perfect circle. The obsevers would still view the result as circular.
Posted by Daniel in Saunemin on Sat Apr 02, 2005 at 07:02 PM
You think this is a joke. In the great land of the rising sun, Japan, they are ACTUALLY doing this! They are teaching children that pi is 3!!!
Japanese kids are taught that pi is "about 3".
http://www.japanecho.co.jp/sum/2005/320208.html
http://www.sapporo-u.ac.jp/~youth/28english/tanaka28e.html
http://www.jref.com/forum/showpost.php?p=172423&postcount=1
There is only one reason why Japanese make such great products, they work themselves to death. People are so overworked there, they commit suicide.
This is NOT a April fool's joke.
Posted by Alex on Sat Apr 02, 2005 at 08:39 PM
So, you think this could never happen?
When I was teaching ESL to students in Japan,
one irate young man told me that his school
was indeed going to teach, for purposes
of simplicity, that pi = 3. Then, presumably,
once students got the hang of it, they could
confuse the hell out of them and tell them
it was really 3.1415926...
My student was angry about it, and I can't
blame him. This approach is the distant cousin
to the philosophy that "2+2=5" if the student's
confidence will be shattered by the truth.
That conversation happened in 2001.
Posted by Reid in Busan, SK on Sun Apr 03, 2005 at 05:44 AM
Yellow Dart: If your comment about the "nazi Evilutionists" (which I am definitely NOT!!!) was meant for me, then I am really sorry I offended you somehow. I do not believe in Evolutionarism either: I am a christian. I was just curious on the article, I wanted to mail it to some of my friends, but I could not find it. That's all....
Posted by Jude in NL on Sun Apr 03, 2005 at 11:11 AM
hahahahaha, keep the clergy on their toes.
Posted by jon on Mon Apr 04, 2005 at 01:26 PM
this isn't that funny.
the Bible only speaks the truth.
if It says 3.0, then 3.0 it must be.
Posted by josiah in indiana on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 02:16 AM
"the Bible only speaks the truth.
if It says 3.0, then 3.0 it must be."
And this is why we're in such trouble.
They'd still burn Bruno and imprison Galileo in this country, it would seem.
D.
Posted by Don in California on Wed Apr 06, 2005 at 12:02 AM
Oh My..... Searches for non-religious exclamation and fails.
Josiah You can't really beleive that?
Tell me you don't!
But then again the catholic church has only recently officially accepted that the Earth is round and that it orbits the sun not the other way round, so you might well be that deluded.
Posted by John in England on Sat Apr 09, 2005 at 02:51 AM
ok, there's absolutely no point in having a religious debate because people have been doing that for centuries. There have been catastrophic massacres because of differences of interperatation of the universe around people. While others may not consider it totally reduntant to have fists flying over their own beliefs or opinions, I think it's probably better to let others have their own way as long as it's not hurting anyone else.
In response to the whole argument over Pi and 30 cubits and such and such, I fail to see the point, and I'll tell you why.
Numbers are a theoretical something that we have assigned to everyday tangible reality. If we create a set-in-stone system for designating the value of "units", then I fail to see how Pi, which is a whole name representing a specific number that goes in between 3 and 4, and therefore our designated units, differs from 30 Cubits (which, by the way, no one is totally certain of in terms of a modern equivalent), which is a whole name for something that was observed by ancient Christians which could very well be the exact same thing as Pi, only maybe they built their numerical system around Pi and not Pi around their numerical system which was already in place, which is what we have done. How do you know that they didn't consider perfect (or near perfect) circles to be divine because of their properites as a rather unique shape and decided to base their system of numbers on it? and thus 30 Cubits was the measure of Pi. I'm only guessing of course, I could be totally off, but that's my two cents. So please people...stop whining about how everyone but you is backwards, because that's never really helped our evolution in any sense of the word.
Posted by madHATTER on Tue Oct 04, 2005 at 01:52 PM
I totally agree with what was stated by madHATTER. Mathematics are in no sense an Exact Science. Human Perception is.
In fact, this argument is good for all purposes when it comes to these "scientific view" versus "religious view" debates.
Science-driven people tend to have that annoying habit of building their beliefs from the observable universe.
Religion-driven ones build their universe around their beliefs and not their beliefs around the observable universe which is already in place, which is what we have done.
Posted by Gonzo in South America on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 08:36 PM
*winks* dat's the ticket. we'll all evolve intellectually as a species and come to accept our differences not as discrepancies, but as something to learn from.
hopefully.
until then, continue your useless bantering. and yes - debating IS useful, it helps us grow, and learn interpersonal skills, how to manipulate language to express what is closest to our truth to others, and how to accept others. but there IS a fine line between a debate and an argument. and when you cross the 'personal' line - which we have - then it's just attack and defence, which leaves people feeling angry and less inclined to listen.
Posted by madHATTER on Wed Oct 26, 2005 at 04:13 PM
i totally fell for that when i heard that a few years ago! i was so annoyed by that! i am glad to see that it was a joke after all! :o)
Posted by courtney in california on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 06:04 PM
I have a very good chemistry teacher at school, who I asked how many decimal places he knows Pi to (as I know just over 65, and counting

).
He says, smugly:
"I can work it out..."
So I ask what he means, to which he says:
"Its just 22/7 isn't it."
Right. Stick to chemistry.
Posted by Marc in England on Tue Jan 10, 2006 at 11:41 PM
WOW! This is really funny because I just cellibrated Pi Day on 3/14/06 ! I don't like anyone would ever pass that law.(especially if they knew anything about pi)
Posted by paigie-poo in New York on Sat Mar 18, 2006 at 05:01 PM
Lol thats funny. Now all they have to do is convince everyone that Rap is stupid and ppl might believe them.
Posted by Luke in Wichita on Wed Mar 22, 2006 at 12:15 PM
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